Tryin to figure out what I've got..

mjn · 03-11-2012, 09:22 PM

I know it's a 7.65, and that it has a DMW marking on the top, also that it's been refinished. (bummer)

Other than that.. I need some help.

Here it is;

I've looked all over, and cannot figure out what year this puppy is....

Anyone?

padredan · 03-11-2012, 09:28 PM

is the chamber stamped? top of the reciever. the germany indicates is was for export. They really did a job of buffing it before blueing, but you see that alot sometimes.

alvin · 03-11-2012, 09:29 PM

It's one of the best quality Lugers. During WWI, DWM expanded dramatically, at peak time, they could make 700+ Lugers per day! After the war, they had to shrink, only their best workers could keep their jobs. This Luger was made by those who survived in that era. So it's 1920s... exact year, Luger expert probably knows. I don't know. 1922, 23?

mjn · 03-11-2012, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padredan

is the chamber stamped? top of the reciever. the germany indicates is was for export. They really did a job of buffing it before blueing, but you see that alot sometimes.

Where specifically would I look? I don't see any other markings on this whatsoever...

It has some funky mark that you can see on this pic.... crappy pic, but it is some kind of stamp;

mjn · 03-11-2012, 09:52 PM

Here... marginally better pic;

mrerick · 03-11-2012, 09:59 PM

The breech block was proofed with a crown over "N", which indicates that it was "Nitro" proofed for commercial sale.

There wasn't a date on top of these commercial Luger receivers.

If I'm reading it correctly, your Luger is serial number 8682f. I don't have my reference here, but that would put it somewhere in the early 1920s. My commercial with a "m" suffix was from 1923. Without references, I'd guess 1922.

mjn · 03-11-2012, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padredan

is the chamber stamped? top of the reciever. the germany indicates is was for export. They really did a job of buffing it before blueing, but you see that alot sometimes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

The breech block was proofed with a crown over "N", which indicates that it was "Nitro" proofed for commercial sale.

There wasn't a date on top of these commercial Luger receivers.

If I'm reading it correctly, your Luger is serial number 8682f. I don't have my reference here, but that would put it somewhere in the early 1920s. My commercial with a "m" suffix was from 1923. Without references, I'd guess 1922.

It is definitely 8682, I do not see any "F". The barrel also sports an 8682 marking... it has some other marking underneath it that I cannot figure out..

Has it been refinished, or did these guns come looking this way??

Edit; Are you referring to the mark below "germany"??? That does look like a cursive "F"...

alvin · 03-11-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mjn

Has it been refinished

Unfortunately, reblued.

mjn · 03-11-2012, 10:10 PM

Any idea what it would be worth retail?

alvin · 03-11-2012, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjn

Any idea what it would be worth retail?

Luger collectors are chasing WWII, military, etc. DWM 1920 commercial guns are not hot at all. Even commercial vs commercial, original DWM 1920 in nice shape could go lower than postwar Interarms

Something is seriously wrong, but that's the market.

Reblued, definitely 3-digit price tag. But I don't know exact numbers. $400?

DavidJayUden · 03-11-2012, 10:34 PM

I'd think that you can do in the $600 range for it. After all it does have a lot of lipstick on it...You can always consign it to a shop with a lot of floor traffic, and this spiffed up one might catch someone's eye.
It's not a bad looking gun at all, unless you are looking thru collecter's eyes.
dju

mrerick · 03-11-2012, 10:40 PM

The "f" is the cursive letter under the word "Germany" under the numeric part of your serial number.

Take a look at the technical reference section of this site, and look at the cursive letters listed.

I agree that $600 is about right for this as a retail price. Perhaps $500 to a collector that wanted a .30 Luger shooter.

Marc

padredan · 03-11-2012, 10:42 PM

nice looking pistol, like it has been stated , collectors would not want it. And commercial reblued , would be kinda what the market would bare. If it's being sold where maybe there are few lugers at all maybe a higher price.

MFC · 03-11-2012, 11:23 PM

With an 'f' suffix, it is a WWI military that was reworked and sold on the commercial market. Alphabet commercials started with the 'i' suffix.

Dwight Gruber · 03-12-2012, 06:10 AM

Is there a proof mark on the left receiver? or numbers? What is stamped underneath the barrel?

--Dwight

mjn · 03-12-2012, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

Is there a proof mark on the left receiver? or numbers? What is stamped underneath the barrel?

--Dwight

I don't see any other proof marks on the receiver. There is the # 82 on several parts, but nothing else that I can see.
The bottom of the barrel has the same #8682 as is on the reciever.

03-11-2012, 09:22 PM	#1
mjn User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tryin to figure out what I've got.. I know it's a 7.65, and that it has a DMW marking on the top, also that it's been refinished. (bummer) Other than that.. I need some help. Here it is; I've looked all over, and cannot figure out what year this puppy is.... Anyone?

03-11-2012, 09:28 PM	#2
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	is the chamber stamped? top of the reciever. the germany indicates is was for export. They really did a job of buffing it before blueing, but you see that alot sometimes. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

03-11-2012, 09:59 PM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The breech block was proofed with a crown over "N", which indicates that it was "Nitro" proofed for commercial sale. There wasn't a date on top of these commercial Luger receivers. If I'm reading it correctly, your Luger is serial number 8682f. I don't have my reference here, but that would put it somewhere in the early 1920s. My commercial with a "m" suffix was from 1923. Without references, I'd guess 1922. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-11-2012, 10:40 PM	#12
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The "f" is the cursive letter under the word "Germany" under the numeric part of your serial number. Take a look at the technical reference section of this site, and look at the cursive letters listed. I agree that $600 is about right for this as a retail price. Perhaps $500 to a collector that wanted a .30 Luger shooter. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-11-2012, 10:42 PM	#13
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	nice looking pistol, like it has been stated , collectors would not want it. And commercial reblued , would be kinda what the market would bare. If it's being sold where maybe there are few lugers at all maybe a higher price. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

03-11-2012, 09:29 PM	#3
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	It's one of the best quality Lugers. During WWI, DWM expanded dramatically, at peak time, they could make 700+ Lugers per day! After the war, they had to shrink, only their best workers could keep their jobs. This Luger was made by those who survived in that era. So it's 1920s... exact year, Luger expert probably knows. I don't know. 1922, 23?

03-11-2012, 09:52 PM	#5
mjn User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here... marginally better pic;

03-11-2012, 10:10 PM	#9
mjn User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any idea what it would be worth retail?

03-11-2012, 10:34 PM	#11
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'd think that you can do in the $600 range for it. After all it does have a lot of lipstick on it...You can always consign it to a shop with a lot of floor traffic, and this spiffed up one might catch someone's eye. It's not a bad looking gun at all, unless you are looking thru collecter's eyes. dju

03-11-2012, 11:23 PM	#14
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	With an 'f' suffix, it is a WWI military that was reworked and sold on the commercial market. Alphabet commercials started with the 'i' suffix. __________________ Mike C.

03-12-2012, 06:10 AM	#15
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Is there a proof mark on the left receiver? or numbers? What is stamped underneath the barrel? --Dwight