Here we go Again-A real parts Luger

Thor · 02-01-2002, 02:02 AM

Luger with 6" barrel Complete with stock on GA, a double date 42 code! Can you believe that one!

http://www.gunsamerica.com/imgview.cgi?fname=./upload/976214882.jpg&title=42+double+dated

~Thor~

Thor · 02-01-2002, 02:03 AM

Meant to say 4" barrel!

Ron Wood · 02-01-2002, 09:21 AM

A couple of things wrong with the gun. First, the image is reversed, it actually shows the left side of the gun. Second, it is attached to a navy stock - this is an illegal combination. If you have a stock, you must also have the proper BATF designated Luger to go with it. To possess only the stock and a short barreled Luger to go with it is putting yourself in a very dangerous position.

Big Norm · 02-01-2002, 10:42 AM

Ron,

What you said about a stock on a short barreled Luger is techically true. But although it is illegal, I don't believe that this is something that the BATF is looking to prosecute. At the moment, they have other more pressing things to chase. As a collector, if that is truely a navy stock, then that has great value to me. Those things are hard to find. Some emails are in order.

I wish that someone would explain to me how you can close a window on GA to get another view. I have fiddled around with a number of articles and have never been successful. The Luger in question has something at the base of the grips that does not come out. I have not actually looked at the GA auction thread yet (just Thor's thread). Maybe there will be something else there in the description.

Don't tell anybody that I am looking. I don't want someone to bid me up.

Big Norm

John Sabato · 02-01-2002, 10:51 AM

Here is the text from the auction that Thor just sent to me cause I can't get to Gunsamerica.com from here...

======================================

42 double dated,1918/20 $950.00

A MAUSER LUGER WITH A HISTORY , WW1/WW2/AND EAST GERMAN. THIS LUGER HAS THE SHOULDER STOCK IN VERY GOOD CONDITION, AROUND 95% OVERALL. ALL MATCHING PARTS WITH EXCEPTION OF THE MAG WITH ALUMINUM BUTT. DOUBLE DATED 1918/20 SWASTIKA STAMPED OUT.PO8 MODEL

GunsAmerica #976214882

Name: LAXSON GUNS

Area Code: 661 FFL Dealer: Yes

How do you get a double date with a "42" to be all matching????? And were did the swastika on a double date come from???

===============================

The accompanying photo is TERRIBLE. not even worth reposting here. Get in touch with him and tell him the stock is illegal with that pistol, but you will take it off his hands since you have the Navy Luger to go with it. Maybe he'll get scared and let you have the stock cheap

-John

Ron Wood · 02-01-2002, 11:32 AM

Norm, the instructions at GA are a little misleading. When you view a picture, there is only that picture to see. Closing the window will not let you see other views of the same gun. To close the window, just click on the "X" in the upper right-hand corner, and you will be returned to the listing page. By the way, John Sabato's suggestion isn't a bad idea. You might be able to pick up the stock reasonably (no way to tell if it is a repro or not from the picture) and not have to acquire that mongrel Luger.

schwob · 02-01-2002, 11:35 AM

Funny, though G.A. was not going to do Lugers, or did I miss something?

John Sabato · 02-01-2002, 11:45 AM

They just don't WANT to offer this type of merchandise for personal prejudice reasons. Schlomo made one post that if you managed to sell one of the items for which he has such disdain, you can keep the commission because he doesn't want it. Somehow, I don't see that happening in practice...

-JS

02-01-2002, 07:39 PM

Is it illegal to put a stock on a short barrel Luger? They were made to do that. They are C&Rs. I've read that it is illegal to attach a stock on any weapon not specifically designed for it.(I got bored once in RVN and mounted a High Standard .22 in an old cut down mauser stock shooting through a piece of bamboo packed with steel wool. Used electrical tape and wire to hold it together. Raised hell on the rats till I got caught with it and to give it up. Don't you know the Feds would love to catch someone with something like that.)

RGG/Roadkill

schwob · 02-01-2002, 09:20 PM

Hello Roadkill, well done=>! Anytime a field expediency can br brought into play, to get the job done, it's a positive move in the right direction!!

Big Norm · 02-01-2002, 11:29 PM

Yah, I really don't want that mutt gun. I already have enough "mistakes". But I don't think that it is legal to make side offers on guns or parts that are auctioned on GA. A lot hinges on whether or not it is an original stock and of course price. But I also just put out $4000 on an operation on my dachshund and I am shy of a full load in my bank account. Plus, I owned some Kmart stock and I am still smarting from that.

Big Norm

02-01-2002, 11:55 PM

Thought I was the only one that did those things. Picked up a stray dog sitting in the middle of the road during a bad storm in October. 10years old mixed Pekenese wasn't neutered , cronic eye and Heart problems and then they found out he had Heartworms. Several thousaand dollars later I got a little mutt whose big deal is raising hell when I call to him to come in the house thinks its a game to run him down. Oh well would'nt let the wife have a small dog when she was alive so think she is getting even with me now.

Big Norm · 02-02-2002, 11:17 PM

02-01-2002, 02:02 AM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Here we go Again-A real parts Luger Luger with 6" barrel Complete with stock on GA, a double date 42 code! Can you believe that one! http://www.gunsamerica.com/imgview.cgi?fname=./upload/976214882.jpg&title=42+double+dated ~Thor~

02-01-2002, 02:03 AM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Here we go Again-A real parts Luger Meant to say 4" barrel!

02-01-2002, 09:21 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Re: Here we go Again-A real parts Luger A couple of things wrong with the gun. First, the image is reversed, it actually shows the left side of the gun. Second, it is attached to a navy stock - this is an illegal combination. If you have a stock, you must also have the proper BATF designated Luger to go with it. To possess only the stock and a short barreled Luger to go with it is putting yourself in a very dangerous position.

02-01-2002, 10:42 AM	#4
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Navy Stock Ron, What you said about a stock on a short barreled Luger is techically true. But although it is illegal, I don't believe that this is something that the BATF is looking to prosecute. At the moment, they have other more pressing things to chase. As a collector, if that is truely a navy stock, then that has great value to me. Those things are hard to find. Some emails are in order. I wish that someone would explain to me how you can close a window on GA to get another view. I have fiddled around with a number of articles and have never been successful. The Luger in question has something at the base of the grips that does not come out. I have not actually looked at the GA auction thread yet (just Thor's thread). Maybe there will be something else there in the description. Don't tell anybody that I am looking. I don't want someone to bid me up. Big Norm

02-01-2002, 10:51 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	It's a parts gun Norm, but you can sell it off after you get the stock Here is the text from the auction that Thor just sent to me cause I can't get to Gunsamerica.com from here... ====================================== 42 double dated,1918/20 $950.00 A MAUSER LUGER WITH A HISTORY , WW1/WW2/AND EAST GERMAN. THIS LUGER HAS THE SHOULDER STOCK IN VERY GOOD CONDITION, AROUND 95% OVERALL. ALL MATCHING PARTS WITH EXCEPTION OF THE MAG WITH ALUMINUM BUTT. DOUBLE DATED 1918/20 SWASTIKA STAMPED OUT.PO8 MODEL GunsAmerica #976214882 Name: LAXSON GUNS Area Code: 661 FFL Dealer: Yes How do you get a double date with a "42" to be all matching????? And were did the swastika on a double date come from??? =============================== The accompanying photo is TERRIBLE. not even worth reposting here. Get in touch with him and tell him the stock is illegal with that pistol, but you will take it off his hands since you have the Navy Luger to go with it. Maybe he'll get scared and let you have the stock cheap -John

02-01-2002, 11:32 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Re: Navy Stock Norm, the instructions at GA are a little misleading. When you view a picture, there is only that picture to see. Closing the window will not let you see other views of the same gun. To close the window, just click on the "X" in the upper right-hand corner, and you will be returned to the listing page. By the way, John Sabato's suggestion isn't a bad idea. You might be able to pick up the stock reasonably (no way to tell if it is a repro or not from the picture) and not have to acquire that mongrel Luger.

02-01-2002, 11:35 AM	#7
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Navy Stock,G.A. Funny, though G.A. was not going to do Lugers, or did I miss something?

02-01-2002, 11:45 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	They aren't staffed to police their listings... They just don't WANT to offer this type of merchandise for personal prejudice reasons. Schlomo made one post that if you managed to sell one of the items for which he has such disdain, you can keep the commission because he doesn't want it. Somehow, I don't see that happening in practice... -JS

02-01-2002, 07:39 PM	#9
R. Grady/Roadkill Guest Posts: n/a	Re: They aren't staffed to police their listings... Is it illegal to put a stock on a short barrel Luger? They were made to do that. They are C&Rs. I've read that it is illegal to attach a stock on any weapon not specifically designed for it.(I got bored once in RVN and mounted a High Standard .22 in an old cut down mauser stock shooting through a piece of bamboo packed with steel wool. Used electrical tape and wire to hold it together. Raised hell on the rats till I got caught with it and to give it up. Don't you know the Feds would love to catch someone with something like that.) RGG/Roadkill

02-01-2002, 09:20 PM	#10
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: They aren't staffed to police their listings., congrats.. Hello Roadkill, well done=>! Anytime a field expediency can br brought into play, to get the job done, it's a positive move in the right direction!!

02-01-2002, 11:29 PM	#11
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Navy Stock Yah, I really don't want that mutt gun. I already have enough "mistakes". But I don't think that it is legal to make side offers on guns or parts that are auctioned on GA. A lot hinges on whether or not it is an original stock and of course price. But I also just put out $4000 on an operation on my dachshund and I am shy of a full load in my bank account. Plus, I owned some Kmart stock and I am still smarting from that. Big Norm

02-01-2002, 11:55 PM	#12
Tracy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Navy Stock (OT) Thought I was the only one that did those things. Picked up a stray dog sitting in the middle of the road during a bad storm in October. 10years old mixed Pekenese wasn't neutered , cronic eye and Heart problems and then they found out he had Heartworms. Several thousaand dollars later I got a little mutt whose big deal is raising hell when I call to him to come in the house thinks its a game to run him down. Oh well would'nt let the wife have a small dog when she was alive so think she is getting even with me now.

02-02-2002, 11:17 PM	#13
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	A-W-W The Price of Love (EOM)