One of the 5 percent!

drbuster · 10-25-2009, 06:18 PM

Jan Still in Imperial Lugers, pages 60-61 states that 5 percent of 1913 dated military lugers were unit marked. Here is one of the 5 percent...

alvin · 10-25-2009, 06:49 PM

It's also the nicest Erfurt that I've seen so far.

drbuster · 10-25-2009, 07:05 PM

Alvin, nice Erfurts are indeed out there. Keep looking!

klaus 3338 · 10-26-2009, 04:49 AM

Congrats- a beauty! Infanterie- Regiment Fürst Leopold von Anhalt Dessau (1. Magdeburgisches) Nr. 26 was part of the 7 Infanterie Division and saw action on the western front- mostly Flandres and battle of the Somme.

tenbears · 10-26-2009, 09:24 PM

Great find congrats their are a number of collections out their without a 1913 unit marked PO8 so I think you did good.

Frank · 10-27-2009, 09:34 AM

Hi Doc, nice find!! Congrats!!!

worldoftone · 11-13-2009, 11:52 AM

Here's another one of the 5%:

Ron Smith · 11-13-2009, 12:17 PM

Ross,

Your 1913 is a 177th Regiment 'Stab' staff pistol. Staff pistols were arsenal maintained for replacement, or for issue as needed. They were marked with only the Regimental number and not designated to a company or detachment. Pretty neat, and hard to find marking. Right up there with an MG company marking.

Ron

worldoftone · 11-13-2009, 01:05 PM

Ron,

Thanks for the info! I researched the Regiment, but did wonder why it wasn't assigned.

This place is great!

- WOT

alvin · 11-14-2009, 08:22 PM

According to this wearness, this gun has been shot at least a few hundred rounds, if not over one thousand (for a semi-auto pistol !!) in normal usage and maintenance mode.... Why was it unassigned? It was assigned. From this shape, the only conclusion can be drawn -- it has never been captured by Russian.

George Anderson · 11-14-2009, 09:17 PM

The Russians had nothing to do with this pistol. As in the case of most "captured pistols" that are in abused condition the wear and abuse came at the hands of someone here in the States long after the war. Neither German soldiers nor any soldiers abused their weapons.

worldoftone · 11-14-2009, 11:57 PM

As long as she is in my hands, she will be taken care of. I've fired close to 100-rds through her (that's hardly any compared to other rifles/pistols I have). Accurate as hell and one of my favorite pistols, but not one that I will be shooting a whole lot.

- WOT

10-25-2009, 06:18 PM	#1
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	One of the 5 percent! Jan Still in Imperial Lugers, pages 60-61 states that 5 percent of 1913 dated military lugers were unit marked. Here is one of the 5 percent... Attached Thumbnails

11-13-2009, 11:52 AM	#7
worldoftone User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Here's another one of the 5%: Attached Thumbnails

11-13-2009, 12:17 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ross, Your 1913 is a 177th Regiment 'Stab' staff pistol. Staff pistols were arsenal maintained for replacement, or for issue as needed. They were marked with only the Regimental number and not designated to a company or detachment. Pretty neat, and hard to find marking. Right up there with an MG company marking. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-25-2009, 06:49 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	It's also the nicest Erfurt that I've seen so far.

10-25-2009, 07:05 PM	#3
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Alvin, nice Erfurts are indeed out there. Keep looking!

10-26-2009, 04:49 AM	#4
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 519 Thanks: 0 Thanked 417 Times in 162 Posts	Congrats- a beauty! Infanterie- Regiment Fürst Leopold von Anhalt Dessau (1. Magdeburgisches) Nr. 26 was part of the 7 Infanterie Division and saw action on the western front- mostly Flandres and battle of the Somme.

10-26-2009, 09:24 PM	#5
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Great find congrats their are a number of collections out their without a 1913 unit marked PO8 so I think you did good.

10-27-2009, 09:34 AM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Doc, nice find!! Congrats!!!

11-13-2009, 01:05 PM	#9
worldoftone User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ron, Thanks for the info! I researched the Regiment, but did wonder why it wasn't assigned. This place is great! - WOT

11-14-2009, 08:22 PM	#10
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	According to this wearness, this gun has been shot at least a few hundred rounds, if not over one thousand (for a semi-auto pistol !!) in normal usage and maintenance mode.... Why was it unassigned? It was assigned. From this shape, the only conclusion can be drawn -- it has never been captured by Russian.

11-14-2009, 09:17 PM	#11
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	The Russians had nothing to do with this pistol. As in the case of most "captured pistols" that are in abused condition the wear and abuse came at the hands of someone here in the States long after the war. Neither German soldiers nor any soldiers abused their weapons.

11-14-2009, 11:57 PM	#12
worldoftone User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	As long as she is in my hands, she will be taken care of. I've fired close to 100-rds through her (that's hardly any compared to other rifles/pistols I have). Accurate as hell and one of my favorite pistols, but not one that I will be shooting a whole lot. - WOT