newbie G date question

Augsburger · 10-21-2009, 11:41 AM

I finished my Erfurt collection last week with a nice 1914 and am now ready to start with the Axis era. I would like to start looking for a G date but cant figure out from the references here what the difference is between a "G" date , P code , S/42, and K date are. Looking for a copy of Axis Pistols but until then I need some basic info. Also, what are the correct period mags for G date Lugers. If someone could point me in the right direction I would be most grateful. Cheers!

FNorm · 10-21-2009, 12:02 PM

You finished your Erfurts?!?!?! Lucky guy!

Yeah, Ya need a copy of Third Reich. I understand there will soon be an updated edition.

FN

Augsburger · 10-21-2009, 12:08 PM

FNorm... Just the 4" barrelled. An all matching, non-boosted Erfurt Arty is becoming rather a pipe dream. I always liked your 1914. Mine isn't as nice as yours but until I find one better...

Edward Tinker · 10-21-2009, 02:16 PM

If you mean a Krieghoff P code, well, its not the same as you called the others....

I assume you have other books?

Kenyon, Walter, any of Jan Still's?

No offense, but what differences are you talking about?

To go into detail would require the above books

and a search of some of the above would show you much;

Mauser production

K date
G date
1936
1937
1938
1939
1940
1941

and all of those have many variations.....

Augsburger · 10-21-2009, 02:45 PM

"G date" doesn't search on the site and I'm trying to determine what to look for. Inspection marks, proofs, what mags are period correct, breech markings, etc. Thanks for your patience until I can buy more literature.

FNorm · 10-21-2009, 03:03 PM

G date, 1935: At least 15 variations/combinations of stamps: Type 1 army mag. See if you can find pg 27 Third Reich.

If you're talking about my 1914, 4 ". I was just walking along, picking my nose, when WHAM! LOL

FN

Augsburger · 10-21-2009, 03:19 PM

FN...Yes, your 4" 1914. Nice. Lost without the book, but type 1 Army... droop wing 63 most common, right?

FNorm · 10-21-2009, 04:25 PM

Type 1 army: Rolled, crimped, nickel plated. Alum. slant bottom. Stamps: 37, B90, S.91, S.92, E/154, E/211, and droop E/63. Issued with K, G, and 1936 up to the m block.

Frank · 10-21-2009, 08:37 PM

There are six variations of the G-Date.

Augsburger · 10-21-2009, 09:53 PM

Frank...awesome!! As always I'm amazed at the knowledge base here and the willingness to help. This gives me a great starting point for round 2 of curing the "disease". Between Lugers and airplanes I'm sure to die with little cash but lots of cool assets!! Cheers!

Edward Tinker · 10-21-2009, 10:37 PM

oh, Frank that is a great picture, can I add it to a sticky in the boards?

Ed

FNorm · 10-21-2009, 10:41 PM

Frank! WOW! 'scuse me while I pant and drool...

FN

FNorm · 10-21-2009, 10:42 PM

Augberger? Whatcha do in aviation?

Ron Wood · 10-21-2009, 11:24 PM

Frank,
That is so great it makes my eyes water! Kind of like a Royal Flush of Lugers. Collections like yours are a fine example of what time and determination can accomplish. You do the hobby proud.

Augsburger · 10-22-2009, 03:03 AM

words fail me....all I can do is shake my head when I see something like that.... (hey Ron!)

Frank · 10-22-2009, 10:29 AM

Hey Guys, thanks for your comments!!

Ed, sure you can "sticky" the picture.

Ron, I didn't think of them as a Royal Flush. I guess it's the Ace, King, Queen, Jack, Ten & Joker

wlyon · 10-22-2009, 12:33 PM

Frank
Really a great arrangement. You are definately the Mauser Man. Bill

Frank · 10-22-2009, 01:03 PM

Hi Bill, yes I am a Mauser Man, but not as big a Mauser Man as my friend Bill Munis!!!

I still miss him!!!!

Edward Tinker · 10-22-2009, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank

Hi Bill, yes I am a Mauser Man, but not as big a Mauser Man as my friend Bill Munis!!!

I still miss him!!!!

As do I; he had a heck of a memory and knew Mauser's, Police, Test Lugers, Artillery's, jeez, he knew all the types and was almost always right

Ed

10-21-2009, 11:41 AM	#1
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	newbie G date question I finished my Erfurt collection last week with a nice 1914 and am now ready to start with the Axis era. I would like to start looking for a G date but cant figure out from the references here what the difference is between a "G" date , P code , S/42, and K date are. Looking for a copy of Axis Pistols but until then I need some basic info. Also, what are the correct period mags for G date Lugers. If someone could point me in the right direction I would be most grateful. Cheers! __________________ Wilder Eber

10-21-2009, 12:08 PM	#3
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	FNorm... Just the 4" barrelled. An all matching, non-boosted Erfurt Arty is becoming rather a pipe dream. I always liked your 1914. Mine isn't as nice as yours but until I find one better... __________________ Wilder Eber

10-21-2009, 02:16 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,609 Times in 2,123 Posts	If you mean a Krieghoff P code, well, its not the same as you called the others.... I assume you have other books? Kenyon, Walter, any of Jan Still's? No offense, but what differences are you talking about? To go into detail would require the above books and a search of some of the above would show you much; Mauser production K date G date 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941 and all of those have many variations..... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-21-2009, 02:45 PM	#5
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	"G date" doesn't search on the site and I'm trying to determine what to look for. Inspection marks, proofs, what mags are period correct, breech markings, etc. Thanks for your patience until I can buy more literature. __________________ Wilder Eber

10-21-2009, 03:03 PM	#6
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	G date, 1935: At least 15 variations/combinations of stamps: Type 1 army mag. See if you can find pg 27 Third Reich. If you're talking about my 1914, 4 ". I was just walking along, picking my nose, when WHAM! LOL FN Last edited by FNorm; 10-21-2009 at 03:07 PM. Reason: add

10-21-2009, 12:02 PM	#2
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	You finished your Erfurts?!?!?! Lucky guy! Yeah, Ya need a copy of Third Reich. I understand there will soon be an updated edition. FN

10-21-2009, 03:19 PM	#7
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	FN...Yes, your 4" 1914. Nice. Lost without the book, but type 1 Army... droop wing 63 most common, right? __________________ Wilder Eber

10-21-2009, 04:25 PM	#8
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Type 1 army: Rolled, crimped, nickel plated. Alum. slant bottom. Stamps: 37, B90, S.91, S.92, E/154, E/211, and droop E/63. Issued with K, G, and 1936 up to the m block.

10-21-2009, 09:53 PM	#10
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	Frank...awesome!! As always I'm amazed at the knowledge base here and the willingness to help. This gives me a great starting point for round 2 of curing the "disease". Between Lugers and airplanes I'm sure to die with little cash but lots of cool assets!! Cheers! __________________ Wilder Eber

10-21-2009, 10:37 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,609 Times in 2,123 Posts	oh, Frank that is a great picture, can I add it to a sticky in the boards? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-21-2009, 10:41 PM	#12
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Frank! WOW! 'scuse me while I pant and drool... FN

10-21-2009, 10:42 PM	#13
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Augberger? Whatcha do in aviation?

10-21-2009, 11:24 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,120 Thanked 5,287 Times in 1,728 Posts	Frank, That is so great it makes my eyes water! Kind of like a Royal Flush of Lugers. Collections like yours are a fine example of what time and determination can accomplish. You do the hobby proud. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-22-2009, 03:03 AM	#15
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	words fail me....all I can do is shake my head when I see something like that.... (hey Ron!) __________________ Wilder Eber

10-22-2009, 10:29 AM	#16
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 165 Times in 87 Posts	Hey Guys, thanks for your comments!! Ed, sure you can "sticky" the picture. Ron, I didn't think of them as a Royal Flush. I guess it's the Ace, King, Queen, Jack, Ten & Joker

10-22-2009, 12:33 PM	#17
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,673 Thanks: 3,244 Thanked 2,661 Times in 988 Posts	Frank Really a great arrangement. You are definately the Mauser Man. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-22-2009, 01:03 PM	#18
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 165 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Bill, yes I am a Mauser Man, but not as big a Mauser Man as my friend Bill Munis!!! I still miss him!!!!