Commercial?

sls11650 · 04-30-2009, 04:50 PM

Just traded myself into my first Luger (30cal) and I have some questions.

All parts that have numbers are the same as the last 2 digits of the serial # but many parts do not have any numbers that I can see. Numbered parts include the rear half of the toggle, take down lever,and side plate. Is this normal?

I got it for a shooter and am not worried about correctness but am curious about what it is and when it may have been made.

policeluger · 04-30-2009, 05:09 PM

sis, sounds OK, is under barrel matched. front of frame at under barrel location? is clip matched, can't tell....not all parts would have a SN#...sounds like a good one.

sls11650 · 04-30-2009, 08:50 PM

Barrel and frame match. Magazine SN does not match and the other one is aluminum base with no SN. The only problem I have found with the gun is that when you fill the wood based magazine with more than 5 rounds it won't feed. The aluminum mag feeds fine with 8.

I've wanted one of these for many years and just lucked into this one.

policeluger · 04-30-2009, 10:29 PM

Wood bottom mags, and yours looks nice, are in the collectors realm and should be retired...stick with the alum mag and perhaps a good after market second one......

Edward Tinker · 04-30-2009, 10:56 PM

As Howard said, commericial lugers are marked in the "commericial" manner, i.e. the serial numbers are considered "hidden" only marked in a few places, not obvious like a military luger.

Good find, any luger is a nice luger

Welcome to the forum,

Ed

MFC · 04-30-2009, 11:57 PM

Steven,
The last two digits of the S# can also be found on the bottom of the forward toggle and extractor, and left side of the breechblock and trigger. The wood bottom mag you have is WWI Erfurt. The correct mag should be wood bottom with no stamps, or stamped 'GERMANY'.

sls11650 · 05-01-2009, 08:38 AM

Thanks to all for the info.
The trigger does have the SN but could not find it on the breechblock or forward toggle.
The pistol is not stamped "Germany" does this mean it was not produced for export?
Steve S.

Edward Tinker · 05-01-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sls11650

Thanks to all for the info.
The trigger does have the SN but could not find it on the breechblock or forward toggle.
The pistol is not stamped "Germany" does this mean it was not produced for export?
Steve S.

Steve,
Either not for export, or not to the USA, the USA required the "germany" marking, not Canada, Mexico, etc.

Ed

04-30-2009, 04:50 PM	#1
sls11650 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Memphis Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Commercial? Just traded myself into my first Luger (30cal) and I have some questions. All parts that have numbers are the same as the last 2 digits of the serial # but many parts do not have any numbers that I can see. Numbered parts include the rear half of the toggle, take down lever,and side plate. Is this normal? I got it for a shooter and am not worried about correctness but am curious about what it is and when it may have been made. Attached Thumbnails

04-30-2009, 10:56 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,594 Times in 2,116 Posts	As Howard said, commericial lugers are marked in the "commericial" manner, i.e. the serial numbers are considered "hidden" only marked in a few places, not obvious like a military luger. Good find, any luger is a nice luger Welcome to the forum, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-30-2009, 11:57 PM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Steven, The last two digits of the S# can also be found on the bottom of the forward toggle and extractor, and left side of the breechblock and trigger. The wood bottom mag you have is WWI Erfurt. The correct mag should be wood bottom with no stamps, or stamped 'GERMANY'. __________________ Mike C.

04-30-2009, 05:09 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	sis, sounds OK, is under barrel matched. front of frame at under barrel location? is clip matched, can't tell....not all parts would have a SN#...sounds like a good one.

04-30-2009, 08:50 PM	#3
sls11650 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Memphis Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Barrel and frame match. Magazine SN does not match and the other one is aluminum base with no SN. The only problem I have found with the gun is that when you fill the wood based magazine with more than 5 rounds it won't feed. The aluminum mag feeds fine with 8. I've wanted one of these for many years and just lucked into this one.

04-30-2009, 10:29 PM	#4
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Wood bottom mags, and yours looks nice, are in the collectors realm and should be retired...stick with the alum mag and perhaps a good after market second one......

05-01-2009, 08:38 AM	#7
sls11650 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Memphis Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks to all for the info. The trigger does have the SN but could not find it on the breechblock or forward toggle. The pistol is not stamped "Germany" does this mean it was not produced for export? Steve S.