1936 Mauser with no strawing

CAP Black · 02-09-2009, 07:58 AM

Hi Guys:

Its me again.

Hey, Did any of the 1936 S/42 Mausers have bluing without the strawing? I'm in touch with one that has a numbers match tool, two numbered mags that match and a brown holster that numbers match. No apparent strawing. The number is 5426 K. What's she apt to be worth?

Thanks, again

Jack

Frank · 02-09-2009, 10:20 AM

Jack, the chances of an all blue 1936 Military Mauser is so small I can't even write that small. I would say zero!!

I would guess it has been reblued and therefore classed as a "shooter". Therefore, the price range would be $500 to $800, depending on the condition of the pistol.

Hope this helps. Please read below!!

alanint · 02-09-2009, 10:27 AM

Have a really close look at all those matching numbers, as well.
It is rare for somebody to reblue an all-matching rig. Chances are they have been forced.

CAP Black · 02-09-2009, 04:09 PM

The numbers look clear, proper & legit. The bluing doesn't show signs of being re-done. The big problem is no strawing on any of the right parts that can be seen. However, I purchased an old one a while back and strawing couldn't be seen until 70 or 80 years of oxidation & grime was removed. I can see the take down pin (on the right hand side) on the subject gun and it looks as blue as anything.

It would be nice to know for sure about an all blue 1936 Mauser. Any other opinions???
thanx
Jack

wlyon · 02-09-2009, 06:50 PM

Jack
Lugers were not all blue until partway through the 1937 production. If there is such a thing I havn't seen one in 45+ years of collecting. I'm afraid this is the only answer you will get from collectors. Bill

John Sabato · 02-10-2009, 10:00 AM

I have to concur with the opinions expressed above... and I have been studying them for 50+ years.

The changeover from straw to blued small parts has been very well documented by advanced collectors to have taken place during 1937 due to wartime shortcuts... if your 1936 Luger has all blued parts, the chances that it left the factory that way are extremely slim to zero. Your first answer above, is from Frank M. who I personally consider to be a foremost authority on Mauser Luger production.

CAP Black · 02-10-2009, 11:04 AM

I appreciate the candid responses.

Thanx

Jack

Tomathvl · 02-10-2009, 11:15 AM

Description of matching mags, tool and holster sounds like a police rig. Does it have a sear safety? Can you post photos?
Tom

CAP Black · 02-10-2009, 01:07 PM

The holster is brown if that makes any difference. If it's a police rig would it be normal to be all blued and no strawing? What would the value be as compared to the $ 800 as mentioned above?

thanx
Jack

Vlim · 02-10-2009, 01:16 PM

Hi,

There are no factory originall all blued 1936 Mausers, neither Police, nor military, nor otherwise. The 1937 changeover was an attempt to cut costs. Salt dip blue is quicker and cheaper to do. I believe the $800 is a good guideline.

The holster really doesn't play a role here.

02-09-2009, 07:58 AM	#1
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	1936 Mauser with no strawing Hi Guys: Its me again. Hey, Did any of the 1936 S/42 Mausers have bluing without the strawing? I'm in touch with one that has a numbers match tool, two numbered mags that match and a brown holster that numbers match. No apparent strawing. The number is 5426 K. What's she apt to be worth? Thanks, again Jack

02-09-2009, 04:09 PM	#4
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	numbers seem no problem The numbers look clear, proper & legit. The bluing doesn't show signs of being re-done. The big problem is no strawing on any of the right parts that can be seen. However, I purchased an old one a while back and strawing couldn't be seen until 70 or 80 years of oxidation & grime was removed. I can see the take down pin (on the right hand side) on the subject gun and it looks as blue as anything. It would be nice to know for sure about an all blue 1936 Mauser. Any other opinions??? thanx Jack

02-09-2009, 06:50 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,652 Thanks: 3,210 Thanked 2,613 Times in 969 Posts	Jack Lugers were not all blue until partway through the 1937 production. If there is such a thing I havn't seen one in 45+ years of collecting. I'm afraid this is the only answer you will get from collectors. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

02-10-2009, 10:00 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I have to concur with the opinions expressed above... and I have been studying them for 50+ years. The changeover from straw to blued small parts has been very well documented by advanced collectors to have taken place during 1937 due to wartime shortcuts... if your 1936 Luger has all blued parts, the chances that it left the factory that way are extremely slim to zero. Your first answer above, is from Frank M. who I personally consider to be a foremost authority on Mauser Luger production. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-10-2009, 01:07 PM	#9
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	I'll Try to post pics The holster is brown if that makes any difference. If it's a police rig would it be normal to be all blued and no strawing? What would the value be as compared to the $ 800 as mentioned above? thanx Jack

02-09-2009, 10:20 AM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Jack, the chances of an all blue 1936 Military Mauser is so small I can't even write that small. I would say zero!! I would guess it has been reblued and therefore classed as a "shooter". Therefore, the price range would be $500 to $800, depending on the condition of the pistol. Hope this helps. Please read below!!

02-09-2009, 10:27 AM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Have a really close look at all those matching numbers, as well. It is rare for somebody to reblue an all-matching rig. Chances are they have been forced.

02-10-2009, 11:04 AM	#7
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	I appreciate the candid responses. Thanx Jack

02-10-2009, 11:15 AM	#8
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Description of matching mags, tool and holster sounds like a police rig. Does it have a sear safety? Can you post photos? Tom

02-10-2009, 01:16 PM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, There are no factory originall all blued 1936 Mausers, neither Police, nor military, nor otherwise. The 1937 changeover was an attempt to cut costs. Salt dip blue is quicker and cheaper to do. I believe the $800 is a good guideline. The holster really doesn't play a role here.