Ive Finally Found One!

Kohaku2416 · 11-03-2006, 01:18 AM

So i have been looking and looking and i think ive finally found a Luger, i have been searching for a Luger since like....... a year now? or however long ive been a part of this board. anyway the gentlemen who wants to sell me his luger lives here in the state of good ol Indiana. So no FFL stuff involved as to im happy of that

However he called his Luger a "parts" gun, i.e he says the barrel, the grips, and i think the springs have all been swapped out with new stuff. However the gun comes with two mags, a loading tool, a hardshell holster, and the Luger itself. it looks in really good condition seeing i have been looking for a shooter grade type Luger, he is asking $450 for it. and im just currious if this is a good price on a luger with that much stuff changed out?

p.s will try to post pics of it asap.

Ron Wood · 11-03-2006, 01:25 AM

You were looking for a shooter Luger, so if you can stuff rounds in the handle and launch bullets out of the muzzle you will be paying a good price. Once you have swapped out one major part, e.g. the barrel, then it becomes a "shooter" and it is moot how many more parts are swapped out as long as they are functional.

zinfull · 11-03-2006, 12:10 PM

The tool, magazines and holster are worth $450. The pistol is just thrown into the deal.

Jerry

lugerholsterrepair · 11-03-2006, 04:25 PM

Jerry! Not so fast! I went over to look at a Luger once advertised with a holster and it was crap. Could be a $39.00 repro..fake $8.99 tool and a $20. Mecgar mag. Have to look first!
Even if it is $450.00 is a smokin deal for a shooter if like Ron says, it will launch bullets! Could be like Jerry says too....Jerry Burney

Kohaku2416 · 11-04-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by lugerholsterrepair
Jerry! Not so fast! I went over to look at a Luger once advertised with a holster and it was crap. Could be a $39.00 repro..fake $8.99 tool and a $20. Mecgar mag. Have to look first!
Even if it is $450.00 is a smokin deal for a shooter if like Ron says, it will launch bullets! Could be like Jerry says too....Jerry Burney

Yeah i asked him about it, and he said the holster is indeed a repro, and i think the mags are mec gar, also the grips are new and so is the barrel, he also says the gun was reblued heavily and he mentioned it was dated 1915 and had a type of "crest" on the toggle, but couldn't be made out because the gun was polished quite a bit to remove the pitting and reblued. Does this crest mean it's from DWM or possibly Erfurt? i also have some pics of it. let me know what you think.

Kohaku2416 · 11-04-2006, 09:30 PM

Also can anyone tell me what the writing on the left side means?

zinfull · 11-04-2006, 11:13 PM

looks well worth the price. I just an optimist at heart and do get taken at times.

Jerry

Kohaku2416 · 11-05-2006, 11:04 AM

When you say taken, does that mean im getting screwed over if i buy this? >_>

Edward Tinker · 11-05-2006, 11:18 AM

You are the only one that can judge that. It has been heavily buffed. As a rep piece the price is reasonable. Nicer shooters sell for $600+ anymore. I would be tempted at $450 for this, although you could offer $375 and see what he says. That said, a repro holster is worth $25, an extra mag is worth $20, so you are only paying around $400 for the gun.

It is your decision, either you want it or not

and if you want a nicer one, then you have to pony up the extra money. I saw a nice erfurt yesterday for $950 at the gun show...

Ed

Kohaku2416 · 11-05-2006, 11:22 AM

It's not really the point of it looking nice that concernes me just being able to know it will fire when i pull the trigger. But still... im currious as to what that writing is on the side.... It that an import mark?

Edward Tinker · 11-05-2006, 11:25 AM

sorry, meant to include this;

NO IDEA

If we could read it, then yes, maybe a import marking; maybe a guys name, too hard to tell. Not normal on lugers though except on a few guns on ww2 guns that were inscribed by a GI...

Kohaku2416 · 11-05-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Edward Tinker
sorry, meant to include this;

NO IDEA

If we could read it, then yes, maybe a import marking; maybe a guys name, too hard to tell. Not normal on lugers though except on a few guns on ww2 guns that were inscribed by a GI...

Hmm...i think i have another pic of it close up......But not sure if anyone can still read it, cuz i can't >_<

zinfull · 11-05-2006, 12:41 PM

If it shoots $450 is not a bad price. Everything around here is $650 or higher for a shooter. As for shooting you do not have to worry about lowering the value due do parts breaking. Some people like the shiny blue look and you could make a trade. As a first luger and a shooter I would get this gun. You will later come to enjoy the oringinal lugers and begin forking out $1000 plus. These guns shoot the same but are original.

As for geting taken, I have been a couple of times when buying on line. Not bad but did not live up to the discription as I read it. I always want to see the good in everything. Thats why I enjoy this forum so much, they will tell you the truth and give excellent advice.

Jerry

John Sabato · 11-05-2006, 07:29 PM

The printing on the left grip frame flat is the import mark. Although it is not in good focus, the lower line appears to me to be CAI St. Albans VT

which is one of the marks used by Century Arms International, in St. Albans, Vermont... I can't read the top line at all, but it is probably something line Luger P.08 and the importers inventory number. The real serial number is the one on the front of the grip frame above the trigger guard... and it includes a small alphabetic character under the 4 digit serial number that identifies the batch number for that serial number.

Freischütz · 11-05-2006, 08:52 PM

What happened to the trigger guard?

Kohaku2416 · 11-05-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by FreischÃ?Â¼tz
What happened to the trigger guard?

You know im not quite sure? i noticed that too....i think it might be bent?

11-03-2006, 01:18 AM	#1
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Ive Finally Found One! So i have been looking and looking and i think ive finally found a Luger, i have been searching for a Luger since like....... a year now? or however long ive been a part of this board. anyway the gentlemen who wants to sell me his luger lives here in the state of good ol Indiana. So no FFL stuff involved as to im happy of that However he called his Luger a "parts" gun, i.e he says the barrel, the grips, and i think the springs have all been swapped out with new stuff. However the gun comes with two mags, a loading tool, a hardshell holster, and the Luger itself. it looks in really good condition seeing i have been looking for a shooter grade type Luger, he is asking $450 for it. and im just currious if this is a good price on a luger with that much stuff changed out? p.s will try to post pics of it asap.

11-03-2006, 01:25 AM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	You were looking for a shooter Luger, so if you can stuff rounds in the handle and launch bullets out of the muzzle you will be paying a good price. Once you have swapped out one major part, e.g. the barrel, then it becomes a "shooter" and it is moot how many more parts are swapped out as long as they are functional. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-03-2006, 04:25 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Jerry! Not so fast! I went over to look at a Luger once advertised with a holster and it was crap. Could be a $39.00 repro..fake $8.99 tool and a $20. Mecgar mag. Have to look first! Even if it is $450.00 is a smokin deal for a shooter if like Ron says, it will launch bullets! Could be like Jerry says too....Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-04-2006, 09:30 PM	#6
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Also can anyone tell me what the writing on the left side means? Attached Thumbnails

11-05-2006, 11:18 AM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	You are the only one that can judge that. It has been heavily buffed. As a rep piece the price is reasonable. Nicer shooters sell for $600+ anymore. I would be tempted at $450 for this, although you could offer $375 and see what he says. That said, a repro holster is worth $25, an extra mag is worth $20, so you are only paying around $400 for the gun. It is your decision, either you want it or not and if you want a nicer one, then you have to pony up the extra money. I saw a nice erfurt yesterday for $950 at the gun show... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-03-2006, 12:10 PM	#3
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 244 Thanks: 5 Thanked 34 Times in 17 Posts	The tool, magazines and holster are worth $450. The pistol is just thrown into the deal. Jerry

11-04-2006, 11:13 PM	#7
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 244 Thanks: 5 Thanked 34 Times in 17 Posts	looks well worth the price. I just an optimist at heart and do get taken at times. Jerry

11-05-2006, 11:04 AM	#8
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	When you say taken, does that mean im getting screwed over if i buy this? >_>

11-05-2006, 11:22 AM	#10
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	It's not really the point of it looking nice that concernes me just being able to know it will fire when i pull the trigger. But still... im currious as to what that writing is on the side.... It that an import mark?

11-05-2006, 11:25 AM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	sorry, meant to include this; NO IDEA If we could read it, then yes, maybe a import marking; maybe a guys name, too hard to tell. Not normal on lugers though except on a few guns on ww2 guns that were inscribed by a GI... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-05-2006, 12:41 PM	#13
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 244 Thanks: 5 Thanked 34 Times in 17 Posts	If it shoots $450 is not a bad price. Everything around here is $650 or higher for a shooter. As for shooting you do not have to worry about lowering the value due do parts breaking. Some people like the shiny blue look and you could make a trade. As a first luger and a shooter I would get this gun. You will later come to enjoy the oringinal lugers and begin forking out $1000 plus. These guns shoot the same but are original. As for geting taken, I have been a couple of times when buying on line. Not bad but did not live up to the discription as I read it. I always want to see the good in everything. Thats why I enjoy this forum so much, they will tell you the truth and give excellent advice. Jerry

11-05-2006, 07:29 PM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	The printing on the left grip frame flat is the import mark. Although it is not in good focus, the lower line appears to me to be CAI St. Albans VT which is one of the marks used by Century Arms International, in St. Albans, Vermont... I can't read the top line at all, but it is probably something line Luger P.08 and the importers inventory number. The real serial number is the one on the front of the grip frame above the trigger guard... and it includes a small alphabetic character under the 4 digit serial number that identifies the batch number for that serial number. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-05-2006, 08:52 PM	#15
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 125 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	What happened to the trigger guard?