Field strip & reassembly

[Mark M.]

Gruss Gott,Kinder!

I would very much apreciate if any or

all of you could help this happless

novice out by answering the following

technical(undoubtably stupid!) question.

When I field strip my pistols after a

gratifying term of stress-reduction

therapy,I've noticed something which

gives me pause for concern.After I've

removed the barrel&toggle assembly from

the frame,I notice that the toggle doesn't seem to be under spring pressure

when I remove the rear pin and take it

and the breech block out.However,when I

reinsert it after cleaning there is a

good deal of rearward pressure on the

entire unit,making it somewhat harder to

return the back pin to its place.My

question is: Why is this tension not

present upon disassembly,but highly

evident when I try to rejoin the parts?

Am I doing something wrong?It seems as

though I must be.They always work,but I

still have to wonder.After all,I used to

dry fire them after they were cleaned

until someone on the Forum taught me

that it was possible to "de-****" them.

Am I doing serious damage to parts which

I'm unaware of??

Any information you all(y'all!] can provide me with will be much apreciated!

Thanks!


Tschuss! Mark M.

[DAVID]

When you insert the toggle assembly into the receiver far enought to insert the rear pin you are cocking the firing pin against the spring tension. My 2 cents. David.

[Mark M.]

Gruss Gott,David!

My question then becomes,"what spring am I

engaging and is it OK? Everything I've read tells

me the firing pin-striker should not be cocked

during field stripping or re-assembly.How can I

avoid this,or is this once again an example of

misinformation put out by people who want to sell

books to the uninitiated and uninformed public

(like me!!)?

[DAVID]

personally I usually do not worry about. The firing pin has a spring inside it. If you look at the left side of the breach block when it is out of the reciever you will see a part sticking out to the left. You can move this part to the rear and you will feel the tension. You could press the sear on the outside of the receiver while sliding the toggle unit in and this would prevent the firing pin from being cocked. David.

[Mark M.]

Gruss Gott nochmals,David!

I just want to say thanks for helping calm some

of my anxiety.These pistols are beautiful,but I

really have no idea of the dynamics which make them

function.Unlike many of the people on this Forum,I'm

not an engineer of any sort.I'm just a man who loves

LUGERS!Thanks again!


Tschuss! Mark M.

[Mark M.]

Gruss Gott,David!

I hadn't thought about the external bars.The

Lit. I was reading only said to press in on the

front of the trigger/sear bar.I was pushing in the

plunger pin.Duh! No wonder it didn't do anything!!

The next time I do a takedown I'll try pressure to

the "external " parts.Just to see what it does.It might make reassembly a tad bit easier.Thanks!


Tschuss! Mark M.

[G.T.]

Hi Mark! The problem you encountered with the toggle assembly was the same 70+ years ago....to make matters worse, some people would remove the cannon assembly with a round in the chamber....you can see what might happen in this type of procedure....and it probably did happen! That is the reason you see the sear safety on the the police pistols & reworks from the 30's and later.....lugers are tremendously fun to mess with, and half the fun is just taking them apart to see what makes them tick....always remember that its "safety first!" enjoy....till...later...G.T.

[Mark M.]

Gruss Gott,G.T.!

Thanks for your imput for me and also for the

safety warnings!I'm one of those fools who have

done a "take-down" with a cartridge in the chamber!

It went OK,but ,as you say,it isn't recommended

procedure!!I didn't realize how true that was until

the very pistol I did it with later had some "sear-

ious" problems!!It would hesitate before letting

"fly",so to speak.It made for some tense moments!

Thanks again!


Tschuss! Mark M.