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Field strip & reassembly
Gruss Gott,Kinder!
I would very much apreciate if any or all of you could help this happless novice out by answering the following technical(undoubtably stupid!) question. When I field strip my pistols after a gratifying term of stress-reduction therapy,I've noticed something which gives me pause for concern.After I've removed the barrel&toggle assembly from the frame,I notice that the toggle doesn't seem to be under spring pressure when I remove the rear pin and take it and the breech block out.However,when I reinsert it after cleaning there is a good deal of rearward pressure on the entire unit,making it somewhat harder to return the back pin to its place.My question is: Why is this tension not present upon disassembly,but highly evident when I try to rejoin the parts? Am I doing something wrong?It seems as though I must be.They always work,but I still have to wonder.After all,I used to dry fire them after they were cleaned until someone on the Forum taught me that it was possible to "de-****" them. Am I doing serious damage to parts which I'm unaware of?? Any information you all(y'all!] can provide me with will be much apreciated! Thanks! Tschuss! Mark M. |
Re: Field strip & reassembly
When you insert the toggle assembly into the receiver far enought to insert the rear pin you are cocking the firing pin against the spring tension. My 2 cents. David.
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Gruss Gott,David!
My question then becomes,"what spring am I engaging and is it OK? Everything I've read tells me the firing pin-striker should not be cocked during field stripping or re-assembly.How can I avoid this,or is this once again an example of misinformation put out by people who want to sell books to the uninitiated and uninformed public (like me!!)? |
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personally I usually do not worry about. The firing pin has a spring inside it. If you look at the left side of the breach block when it is out of the reciever you will see a part sticking out to the left. You can move this part to the rear and you will feel the tension. You could press the sear on the outside of the receiver while sliding the toggle unit in and this would prevent the firing pin from being cocked. David.
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Gruss Gott nochmals,David!
I just want to say thanks for helping calm some of my anxiety.These pistols are beautiful,but I really have no idea of the dynamics which make them function.Unlike many of the people on this Forum,I'm not an engineer of any sort.I'm just a man who loves LUGERS!Thanks again! Tschuss! Mark M. |
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Gruss Gott,David!
I hadn't thought about the external bars.The Lit. I was reading only said to press in on the front of the trigger/sear bar.I was pushing in the plunger pin.Duh! No wonder it didn't do anything!! The next time I do a takedown I'll try pressure to the "external " parts.Just to see what it does.It might make reassembly a tad bit easier.Thanks! Tschuss! Mark M. |
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Hi Mark! The problem you encountered with the toggle assembly was the same 70+ years ago....to make matters worse, some people would remove the cannon assembly with a round in the chamber....you can see what might happen in this type of procedure....and it probably did happen! That is the reason you see the sear safety on the the police pistols & reworks from the 30's and later.....lugers are tremendously fun to mess with, and half the fun is just taking them apart to see what makes them tick....always remember that its "safety first!" enjoy....till...later...G.T.
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Re: Field strip & reassembly
Gruss Gott,G.T.!
Thanks for your imput for me and also for the safety warnings!I'm one of those fools who have done a "take-down" with a cartridge in the chamber! It went OK,but ,as you say,it isn't recommended procedure!!I didn't realize how true that was until the very pistol I did it with later had some "sear- ious" problems!!It would hesitate before letting "fly",so to speak.It made for some tense moments! Thanks again! Tschuss! Mark M. |
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