Help to identify my Luger

ltojal · 09-25-2013, 07:15 AM

Hi everybody, would like have some help to date and identify my old Luger. It comes from my grandad who was Spanish Army Coronel, I don´t know a single thing about this weapon, so if anyone can help to know more about it I´ll be very grateful.

alanint · 09-25-2013, 07:21 AM

Welcome aboard!
There is not much to say from your photos other than:
- It is most probably a WW1 DWM
- It has been heavily buffed and refinished and very poorly re-strawed, (too much heat).
- The takedown lever appears to have an Erfurt proof, but no number?
- It has been HORRIBLY demilled, (Spanish Goverment?)

You need to provide photos of the top of the pistol, including any markings above the chamber and on the toggle, along with photos of the frame serial number, any proofs on the right side upper frame behind the barrel and any other markings you may find. These need to be close-in, clear photos in order to be able to help you further.

John Sabato · 09-25-2013, 08:49 AM

If the hole in the barrel (forward of the upper receiver) is the only demill action taken, a new barrel would put this old pistole back on the firing range...

ltojal · 09-26-2013, 05:17 AM

Hi, thanks for the quick answering. Yes the horrible hole was made by the Guardia Civil who manages the controling of firearms in Spain, they didn´t allow me to keep it in order of firing and they almost destroy it...it´s a pity.
I´ve done some shots over the marks I found in the gun, hope those can be useful to you.

I Sorry because my english.

Thank you all, best regards.

Luis

ltojal · 09-26-2013, 05:25 AM

more clear picture over the marks an a couple of the holster

alanint · 09-26-2013, 06:34 AM

Your gun may have been an Erfurt, judging from the trigger, takedown lever, extractor and the proofs. The center toggle has been "scrubbed", (markings removed), but at one time had the Erfurt name and Imperial crown.

Your gun would be considered a "shooter" here in the US, (no collector value), but in its present condition, would be worth maybe $400. A new barrel would allow this pistol to shoot again, assuming that nothing else has been damaged in the gun.

In any event, it is a nice reminder of you Grandfather and should be cared for. Keep it oiled with a quality product. Treat the grips with a good wood preservative and do not store it in the holster, as this will eventually damage the finish.

09-25-2013, 07:15 AM	#1
ltojal New User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help to identify my Luger Hi everybody, would like have some help to date and identify my old Luger. It comes from my grandad who was Spanish Army Coronel, I don´t know a single thing about this weapon, so if anyone can help to know more about it I´ll be very grateful. Attached Thumbnails

09-25-2013, 08:49 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	If the hole in the barrel (forward of the upper receiver) is the only demill action taken, a new barrel would put this old pistole back on the firing range... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-26-2013, 05:17 AM	#4
ltojal New User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, thanks for the quick answering. Yes the horrible hole was made by the Guardia Civil who manages the controling of firearms in Spain, they didn´t allow me to keep it in order of firing and they almost destroy it...it´s a pity. I´ve done some shots over the marks I found in the gun, hope those can be useful to you. I Sorry because my english. Thank you all, best regards. Luis Attached Thumbnails

09-26-2013, 05:25 AM	#5
ltojal New User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	more clear picture over the marks an a couple of the holster Attached Thumbnails

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09-25-2013, 07:21 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Welcome aboard! There is not much to say from your photos other than: - It is most probably a WW1 DWM - It has been heavily buffed and refinished and very poorly re-strawed, (too much heat). - The takedown lever appears to have an Erfurt proof, but no number? - It has been HORRIBLY demilled, (Spanish Goverment?) You need to provide photos of the top of the pistol, including any markings above the chamber and on the toggle, along with photos of the frame serial number, any proofs on the right side upper frame behind the barrel and any other markings you may find. These need to be close-in, clear photos in order to be able to help you further.

09-26-2013, 06:34 AM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Your gun may have been an Erfurt, judging from the trigger, takedown lever, extractor and the proofs. The center toggle has been "scrubbed", (markings removed), but at one time had the Erfurt name and Imperial crown. Your gun would be considered a "shooter" here in the US, (no collector value), but in its present condition, would be worth maybe $400. A new barrel would allow this pistol to shoot again, assuming that nothing else has been damaged in the gun. In any event, it is a nice reminder of you Grandfather and should be cared for. Keep it oiled with a quality product. Treat the grips with a good wood preservative and do not store it in the holster, as this will eventually damage the finish.