OT Enigma Machine

Orv Reichert · 09-27-2002, 12:45 PM

My good friend and co-author [Germany] is having a 'garage sale' to pay for some newly acquired pistols!

Included is the ultimate WW-2 collectible! an ENIGMA MACHINE! [would you believe he had two?]

It and much more is listed on EBAY...you can check under the seller's moniker of "Mod.HP".

I will attest to his veracity and integrity. He is one of the world's top experts and collectors..........and one of my best friends!

So, if you need a coding machine, here is your chance!

ORV REICHERT
P O BOX 67
VADER, WA 98593-0067
360 245 3492 (TEL)
360 245 3702 (FAX)
MR.P38@LOCALACCESS.COM (E-MAIL)

Artsi · 09-27-2002, 12:49 PM

I have trouble sometimes to understand my computer as it is.
To have an apparatus designed to do just that and nothing else scares me.

[img]smile.gif[/img]

-Artsi

kidvett · 09-27-2002, 01:44 PM

WOW! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

ORV,
I went to see on EBAY the items your friend has for sale:

<img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> Incredible stuff! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]

Edward Tinker · 09-27-2002, 02:03 PM

Very cool Orv!

Thanks and I'll watch a few of these auctions.

Ed

John Sabato · 09-27-2002, 03:51 PM

Wish I had that kind of money Orv... my military background was in crypto... I would love to have one of those ENIGMA machines on display in my office.

Brandon · 09-27-2002, 11:02 PM

Go for it John!!!

Orv Reichert · 09-28-2002, 12:12 PM

I posted a photo, John....I think you should own that puppy!

Orv

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/enigma-1.jpg

[hope the photo thing works?

Orv Reichert · 09-28-2002, 12:25 PM

I try again...

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Enigma-1.jpg

Pete Ebbink · 09-28-2002, 03:15 PM

Okay, I am going very <img src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" border="0" alt="[offtopic]" />

When did the Enigma machine go from 3 wheels to 4 wheels ? (Date/Reason ?)The only photo I have seen in the past is a 4-wheel unit...

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

lugerholsterrepair · 09-28-2002, 10:04 PM

Pete, These machines had a capability to put on and take off wheels. The Germans started out with one and eventually went to multiples. Some of the more complicated ones had more than four I think. The Poles copied the Enigma from a commercial model that was sold in Germany before the war and by the time the Germans invaded Poland they had a giant work shop think tank that was removed to England just in time to escape capture. It became a basis for breaking German codes. Time life produced a book on codes etc. That had a great article about this. Jerry Burney

unspellable · 09-29-2002, 09:40 AM

John should buy both machines. After all, if you encrypt a message on one side of the office, you need something to decrypt it on the other side.

kidvett · 09-29-2002, 10:13 AM

Hello Pete,

Enigma machines went to 4 rotors beginning of 1943. Allied were reading Enigma since end of 1942. Even with the 4 rotors Enigma, Allied were able to read it and know the approximate locations of U-Boats.

Less successes against vessels prompted Donitz to establish WOLF PACKS of U-Boats....no big successes there too...

Turning point of the U-Boat warfare came in summer 1943 when they became the game instead of being the hunter...

Excellent books on the subjetc by author Blair...

kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]

09-27-2002, 12:45 PM	#1
Orv Reichert RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OT Enigma Machine My good friend and co-author [Germany] is having a 'garage sale' to pay for some newly acquired pistols! Included is the ultimate WW-2 collectible! an ENIGMA MACHINE! [would you believe he had two?] It and much more is listed on EBAY...you can check under the seller's moniker of "Mod.HP". I will attest to his veracity and integrity. He is one of the world's top experts and collectors..........and one of my best friends! So, if you need a coding machine, here is your chance! ORV REICHERT P O BOX 67 VADER, WA 98593-0067 360 245 3492 (TEL) 360 245 3702 (FAX) MR.P38@LOCALACCESS.COM (E-MAIL) __________________ ORVEL L. "ORV" REICHERT

09-27-2002, 12:49 PM	#2
Artsi User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have trouble sometimes to understand my computer as it is. To have an apparatus designed to do just that and nothing else scares me. [img]smile.gif[/img] -Artsi __________________ A golf course is a waste of perfectly good rifle range. (- someone in the net-)

09-27-2002, 02:03 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,963 Thanks: 2,064 Thanked 4,593 Times in 2,115 Posts	Very cool Orv! Thanks and I'll watch a few of these auctions. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-27-2002, 03:51 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Wish I had that kind of money Orv... my military background was in crypto... I would love to have one of those ENIGMA machines on display in my office. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-28-2002, 12:12 PM	#7
Orv Reichert RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I posted a photo, John....I think you should own that puppy! Orv http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/enigma-1.jpg [hope the photo thing works? __________________ ORVEL L. "ORV" REICHERT

09-27-2002, 01:44 PM	#3
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	WOW! [img]biggrin.gif[/img] ORV, I went to see on EBAY the items your friend has for sale: <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> Incredible stuff! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]

09-27-2002, 11:02 PM	#6
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Go for it John!!!

09-28-2002, 12:25 PM	#8
Orv Reichert RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I try again... http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Enigma-1.jpg __________________ ORVEL L. "ORV" REICHERT

09-28-2002, 03:15 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Okay, I am going very <img src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" border="0" alt="[offtopic]" /> When did the Enigma machine go from 3 wheels to 4 wheels ? (Date/Reason ?)The only photo I have seen in the past is a 4-wheel unit... Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

09-28-2002, 10:04 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Pete, These machines had a capability to put on and take off wheels. The Germans started out with one and eventually went to multiples. Some of the more complicated ones had more than four I think. The Poles copied the Enigma from a commercial model that was sold in Germany before the war and by the time the Germans invaded Poland they had a giant work shop think tank that was removed to England just in time to escape capture. It became a basis for breaking German codes. Time life produced a book on codes etc. That had a great article about this. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-29-2002, 09:40 AM	#11
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	John should buy both machines. After all, if you encrypt a message on one side of the office, you need something to decrypt it on the other side.

09-29-2002, 10:13 AM	#12
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hello Pete, Enigma machines went to 4 rotors beginning of 1943. Allied were reading Enigma since end of 1942. Even with the 4 rotors Enigma, Allied were able to read it and know the approximate locations of U-Boats. Less successes against vessels prompted Donitz to establish WOLF PACKS of U-Boats....no big successes there too... Turning point of the U-Boat warfare came in summer 1943 when they became the game instead of being the hunter... Excellent books on the subjetc by author Blair... kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]