1925 Simpson info requested

lugercollector · 04-07-2004, 02:12 PM

I have heard of a 1925 Simpson for sale..... in original very good condition.....3 digit serial number,no suffix....I am trying to figure the approximate value and rarity so that I can make the owner an offer....any feed back would be appreciated....Thanks.....Peter...

policeluger · 04-07-2004, 02:55 PM

Check out Simpsons Ltd. alway a good indicator of worth, but way to much info is missing here to even come close to a guess. However it does not take to much for a Simson to go over the $2,000USD mark....keep us posted, is it a police model?

lugercollector · 04-07-2004, 03:05 PM

Policeluger,Thanks for the info,obviously not a run of the mill Luger!!......I have yet to see the gun,do not know if it is Police issue....if or when I do,I will take some pictures and post them....Cheers...Peter...

George Anderson · 04-07-2004, 04:33 PM

I sold one in January for $2200 and a friend sold one last month in Louisville for $2000. The latter in about 90% condition and mine in 85%. They are scarce and seem to demand a small premium compared to a common "black widow". Go figure.

lugercollector · 04-07-2004, 04:55 PM

Thanks George!!......from my experience, the "mystique" surrounding Nazi era guns is the reason for the premium on the war time weapons......

policeluger · 04-07-2004, 05:42 PM

I had my reworked police model apprised by Ralph Shattuck last year for $2000...depending on who you listen to, there are from 100 to 300 police models accounted for.

MauserLugers · 04-07-2004, 08:13 PM

A true 1925 dated Simson is a very rare variation with only approximately 24 known. I have serial number 378. I had another, serial 196 that had the police sear safety on it, but didn't feel it was correct.

I would say that the serial number of any correct 1925 should be below serial number 684.

Also, Simson's can have a couple of different combination of acceptance marks on the right receiver, but all the police have the same combination, or at least all the ones I have observed. Reworks are a totally different ball game. -- Bill

MauserLugers · 04-08-2004, 12:15 AM

Acceptance marks on the police are E/6, E/81, E/67, E/67, Eagle. Another point of interest is all the Simson Police of new manufacture with a sear safety are in the "a" block, (blank toggle and S code). -- Bill

Edward Tinker · 04-08-2004, 09:02 AM

Thanks Bill, saved this information for later,

Ed

lugercollector · 04-09-2004, 03:41 PM

Hi Bill....Thanks for the info.....the ser # is in the 400 range.....Peter..

04-07-2004, 02:12 PM	#1
lugercollector Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: canada Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts	1925 Simpson info requested I have heard of a 1925 Simpson for sale..... in original very good condition.....3 digit serial number,no suffix....I am trying to figure the approximate value and rarity so that I can make the owner an offer....any feed back would be appreciated....Thanks.....Peter...

04-08-2004, 09:02 AM	#9
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04-07-2004, 02:55 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Check out Simpsons Ltd. alway a good indicator of worth, but way to much info is missing here to even come close to a guess. However it does not take to much for a Simson to go over the $2,000USD mark....keep us posted, is it a police model?

04-07-2004, 03:05 PM	#3
lugercollector Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: canada Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts	Policeluger,Thanks for the info,obviously not a run of the mill Luger!!......I have yet to see the gun,do not know if it is Police issue....if or when I do,I will take some pictures and post them....Cheers...Peter...

04-07-2004, 04:33 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	I sold one in January for $2200 and a friend sold one last month in Louisville for $2000. The latter in about 90% condition and mine in 85%. They are scarce and seem to demand a small premium compared to a common "black widow". Go figure.

04-07-2004, 04:55 PM	#5
lugercollector Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: canada Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts	Thanks George!!......from my experience, the "mystique" surrounding Nazi era guns is the reason for the premium on the war time weapons......

04-07-2004, 05:42 PM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I had my reworked police model apprised by Ralph Shattuck last year for $2000...depending on who you listen to, there are from 100 to 300 police models accounted for.

04-07-2004, 08:13 PM	#7
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	A true 1925 dated Simson is a very rare variation with only approximately 24 known. I have serial number 378. I had another, serial 196 that had the police sear safety on it, but didn't feel it was correct. I would say that the serial number of any correct 1925 should be below serial number 684. Also, Simson's can have a couple of different combination of acceptance marks on the right receiver, but all the police have the same combination, or at least all the ones I have observed. Reworks are a totally different ball game. -- Bill

04-08-2004, 12:15 AM	#8
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Acceptance marks on the police are E/6, E/81, E/67, E/67, Eagle. Another point of interest is all the Simson Police of new manufacture with a sear safety are in the "a" block, (blank toggle and S code). -- Bill

04-09-2004, 03:41 PM	#10
lugercollector Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: canada Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts	Hi Bill....Thanks for the info.....the ser # is in the 400 range.....Peter..