Luger on Gunbroker

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2015, 09:05 AM

I don't really mean to pick apart other people's guns, but not much adds up on this one. Thoughts?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=514108261

dju

alvin · 10-11-2015, 09:27 AM

No worry. Good gun should not worry talking on top of table. Under table subjective talking is bad, but on table objective talking is OK IMO. Why is this particular one interesting? What's its selling point?

sheepherder · 10-11-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin

No worry. Good gun should not worry talking on top of table. Under table subjective talking is bad, but on table objective talking is OK...

What???

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...144 gr. cartridges or heavier...Mauser banner on dorsum of receiver...

144gr cartridge??? Does he mean the bullet??? "Dorsum of receiver??? Does this seller even know which end goes bang???

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Requires FFL? No

Big red flag here...

alvin · 10-11-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

What???

Nothing. Please keep talking.

sheepherder · 10-11-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin

Nothing. Please keep talking.

No, I'll shut up now.

Arizona Slim · 10-11-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

I don't really mean to pick apart other people's guns, but not much adds up on this one. Thoughts?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=514108261

dju

I agree completely. After looking closely at the fuzzy photos and noticing the condition of the bore which he says is "like new" but obviously is well worn, I must agree with the gentleman that posted the negative comments in his feedback. Certainly not a high end pistol.

Lon

Sergio Natali · 10-11-2015, 12:23 PM

Most of the threads are informative, a few others are hilarious, like this one...

Sergio

ithacaartist · 10-11-2015, 12:45 PM

David,

...What Rich said...and some more arithmetic. Looks media blasted and buffed to me. "Milspec" and no chamber date? Bad repro holster with bad repro tool. I guess poor "Luger15" misses out on this one.

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2015, 02:31 PM

A few issues that caught my eye were it being a Mauser banner gun with no Mauser hump but strawed parts. No date. Also does having the suffix on the left side of the receiver make sense? Lots of "I don't knows" on this one, but the bore, the holster and his verbiage does not add up. But then other than the S42 guns, I'm pretty much in the dark on the Mauser Banner stuff. I wish the photos matched his bloviating...
It's an interesting conversation piece so long as my money isn't involved.
dju

Ben M. · 10-11-2015, 03:31 PM

dont see letter suffix on side of receiver with ser numerals. why this one has it?

aldo35 · 10-11-2015, 04:27 PM

I have asked seller to post pictures of front strap with serial # and toggles. Strange descriptions. I looked up dorsum and wonder what it is any ideas?
Aldo35

sheepherder · 10-11-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aldo35

I looked up dorsum and wonder what it is any ideas?
Aldo35

Well, the dorsal fin of a shark is up on the top, so I suppose he means the top...

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Originally Posted by Ben M.

dont see letter suffix on side of receiver with ser numerals. why this one has it?

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Also does having the suffix on the left side of the receiver make sense?

I don't know, it seems out of place, but I didn't want to reveal my ignorance...Ron & Jerry love to jump on my ****...

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2015, 04:52 PM

Google shows Dorsum to be the upper side of an animal, right where the Mauser Banner should be.

Ron Wood · 10-11-2015, 05:20 PM

r.e. "dorsum"...I don't know about the gun, but I am reluctant to beat up on the guy because he has a command of the language!

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2015, 06:28 PM

You're right, I'd not pick on him just on the basis of his vocabulary. However his honesty and knowledge of his product is another story.
dju

Edward Tinker · 10-11-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

You're right, I'd not pick on him just on the basis of his vocabulary. However his honesty and knowledge of his product is another story.
dju

hmmm, I don't always doubt their honesty just because they are un-luger-educated

alanint · 10-11-2015, 07:02 PM

I would also lump those grips into the doubtful category.

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2015, 08:46 PM

Ed:
"hmmm, I don't always doubt their honesty just because they are un-luger-educated"
You are absolutely right that we should always give the uninformed the benefit of the doubt. But you have to admit that the list of questionable features and statements is pretty long.

Also, for my info. were there models with the suffix stamped in this fashion on the left side? Sure looks original. Also, were there Mauser Banner guns in the pre-1937 era?
Thanks in advance.

dju

10-11-2015, 09:05 AM	#1
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Luger on Gunbroker I don't really mean to pick apart other people's guns, but not much adds up on this one. Thoughts? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=514108261 dju

10-11-2015, 12:23 PM	#7
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Most of the threads are informative, a few others are hilarious, like this one... Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

10-11-2015, 12:45 PM	#8
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,369 Thanks: 7,433 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,378 Posts	David, ...What Rich said...and some more arithmetic. Looks media blasted and buffed to me. "Milspec" and no chamber date? Bad repro holster with bad repro tool. I guess poor "Luger15" misses out on this one. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

10-11-2015, 05:20 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	r.e. "dorsum"...I don't know about the gun, but I am reluctant to beat up on the guy because he has a command of the language! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-11-2015, 09:27 AM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	No worry. Good gun should not worry talking on top of table. Under table subjective talking is bad, but on table objective talking is OK IMO. Why is this particular one interesting? What's its selling point?

10-11-2015, 02:31 PM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	A few issues that caught my eye were it being a Mauser banner gun with no Mauser hump but strawed parts. No date. Also does having the suffix on the left side of the receiver make sense? Lots of "I don't knows" on this one, but the bore, the holster and his verbiage does not add up. But then other than the S42 guns, I'm pretty much in the dark on the Mauser Banner stuff. I wish the photos matched his bloviating... It's an interesting conversation piece so long as my money isn't involved. dju

10-11-2015, 03:31 PM	#10
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 498 Thanks: 96 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	dont see letter suffix on side of receiver with ser numerals. why this one has it?

10-11-2015, 04:27 PM	#11
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 390 Thanks: 2,295 Thanked 182 Times in 90 Posts	I have asked seller to post pictures of front strap with serial # and toggles. Strange descriptions. I looked up dorsum and wonder what it is any ideas? Aldo35

10-11-2015, 04:52 PM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Google shows *Dorsum* to be the upper side of an animal, right where the Mauser Banner should be.

10-11-2015, 06:28 PM	#15
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	You're right, I'd not pick on him just on the basis of his vocabulary. However his honesty and knowledge of his product is another story. dju

10-11-2015, 07:02 PM	#17
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	I would also lump those grips into the doubtful category.

10-11-2015, 08:46 PM	#18
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Ed: "hmmm, I don't always doubt their honesty just because they are un-luger-educated" You are absolutely right that we should always give the uninformed the benefit of the doubt. But you have to admit that the list of questionable features and statements is pretty long. Also, for my info. were there models with the suffix stamped in this fashion on the left side? Sure looks original. Also, were there Mauser Banner guns in the pre-1937 era? Thanks in advance. dju