What do I have here...?

DVFirearms · 03-27-2014, 02:01 PM

Hi all. Just wondering if anyone could tell me more about what I have here, and the approximate value. I have attached some pictures, but let me know if there is any other information from the pistol needed.

John Sabato · 03-27-2014, 02:19 PM

I will let others comment on your pistol (looks like a buffed and refinished model 1900 AE to me).

My question is: Does that pistol fit in that holster. It may be a photographic optical illusion, but it looks like a holster for a standard 4" barrel P.08, and your barrel looks like 4.75" long? Unless the gun fits perfectly in the holster and the flap closes easily, the two don't belong together...

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DavidJayUden · 03-27-2014, 02:35 PM

I'll take it a bit further to suggest that it is a 1906 American Eagle in .30 cal. Highly buffed and reblued, with the straw coloring being forgotten during the process. I'm not really up on these things, but will go out on a limb to suggest that the gun is worth around $1000-$1200 with the mismatched military holster probably another $200.
But the numbers and markings are not well photo'ed, so my estimates may change as information continues to come in.
Like John said, Welcome aboard!
dju

DVFirearms · 03-27-2014, 02:40 PM

Sorry for the wrong orientation but here are additional photos of the holster/gun. Ill get better ones of the markings.

John Sabato · 03-27-2014, 02:45 PM

This gun and holster are definitely not "together"

If you stretch the cover flap to fit over this pistol you are doing the historical holster an injustice... The barrel will eventually tear through the nose of the decades old holster... and ruin it, and its value.

...and thanks for updating your profile!

nukem556 · 03-27-2014, 04:09 PM

David is very generous in that valuation, in my opinion. There's nothing in my eyes more offensive that can be done to a Luger, than buffing the metal down to a smeared ugly mess with not a straight line left on it. I'd say 300-350 for parts

mrerick · 03-27-2014, 06:00 PM

The holster looks like a repro that has been aged...

Note the uneven stitching; the round holes in the closure strap.

i'm not an expert, but it doesn't look right to me...

Marc

cirelaw · 03-27-2014, 06:33 PM

The condition of the side plate scares me, I would be afraid to use as a shooter!

lfid · 03-28-2014, 12:05 AM

the eagle on chamber looks to be maybe a retry impression of some sort over an original image after perhaps pitting removed from that area

lower ring edge in the area behind the front sight looks blurred suggesting heavy polishing perhaps to remove pitting

left side frame rail is reduced in size and rounded that suggests heavy polishing , as does the clearance between the silde and frame in the front below barrel view

so is likely a shooter if someone wants a 30 luger and also the bore is at least 50% grooves
maybe $700 value honest retail

good luck
Bill

Sergio Natali · 03-28-2014, 06:46 AM

Welcome to this forum.
It's surely a DWM 1900/06 American Eagle not professionally rebufffed, proibably a good "shooter" also depends on the barrel. The holster still doesn't look right to me.
IMHO

Sergio

DVFirearms · 04-03-2014, 02:55 PM

Thank you all! This item is for sale, it is a consignment item. They seller does have a specific price in mind, but we are taking offers at this time...

Edward Tinker · 04-03-2014, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVFirearms

Thank you all! This item is for sale, it is a consignment item. They seller does have a specific price in mind, but we are taking offers at this time...

I sent a PM over a week ago - no response

You want to sell an item, please put it into the FOR SECTION and post a price.

This is NOT an auction house.

This thread is CLOSED

03-27-2014, 02:01 PM	#1
DVFirearms User Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What do I have here...? Hi all. Just wondering if anyone could tell me more about what I have here, and the approximate value. I have attached some pictures, but let me know if there is any other information from the pistol needed. Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2014, 02:19 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I will let others comment on your pistol (looks like a buffed and refinished model 1900 AE to me). My question is: Does that pistol fit in that holster. It may be a photographic optical illusion, but it looks like a holster for a standard 4" barrel P.08, and your barrel looks like 4.75" long? Unless the gun fits perfectly in the holster and the flap closes easily, the two don't belong together... BTW, Welcome to the Lugerforum. Also, your full last name is required as a condition for registration on the Lugerforum. Please open your profile and complete your last name. No personal information is shared, lent, stolen, or given away on this site, but rules are rules. The last name is only available to moderators. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-27-2014, 02:40 PM	#4
DVFirearms User Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry for the wrong orientation but here are additional photos of the holster/gun. Ill get better ones of the markings. Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2014, 02:45 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	This gun and holster are definitely not "together" If you stretch the cover flap to fit over this pistol you are doing the historical holster an injustice... The barrel will eventually tear through the nose of the decades old holster... and ruin it, and its value. ...and thanks for updating your profile! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-27-2014, 06:00 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	The holster looks like a repro that has been aged... Note the uneven stitching; the round holes in the closure strap. i'm not an expert, but it doesn't look right to me... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-27-2014, 02:35 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'll take it a bit further to suggest that it is a 1906 American Eagle in .30 cal. Highly buffed and reblued, with the straw coloring being forgotten during the process. I'm not really up on these things, but will go out on a limb to suggest that the gun is worth around $1000-$1200 with the mismatched military holster probably another $200. But the numbers and markings are not well photo'ed, so my estimates may change as information continues to come in. Like John said, Welcome aboard! dju

03-27-2014, 04:09 PM	#6
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	David is very generous in that valuation, in my opinion. There's nothing in my eyes more offensive that can be done to a Luger, than buffing the metal down to a smeared ugly mess with not a straight line left on it. I'd say 300-350 for parts

03-27-2014, 06:33 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	The condition of the side plate scares me, I would be afraid to use as a shooter!

03-28-2014, 12:05 AM	#9
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	the eagle on chamber looks to be maybe a retry impression of some sort over an original image after perhaps pitting removed from that area lower ring edge in the area behind the front sight looks blurred suggesting heavy polishing perhaps to remove pitting left side frame rail is reduced in size and rounded that suggests heavy polishing , as does the clearance between the silde and frame in the front below barrel view so is likely a shooter if someone wants a 30 luger and also the bore is at least 50% grooves maybe $700 value honest retail good luck Bill

03-28-2014, 06:46 AM	#10
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Welcome to this forum. It's surely a DWM 1900/06 American Eagle not professionally rebufffed, proibably a good "shooter" also depends on the barrel. The holster still doesn't look right to me. IMHO Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

04-03-2014, 02:55 PM	#11
DVFirearms User Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you all! This item is for sale, it is a consignment item. They seller does have a specific price in mind, but we are taking offers at this time...