Twins~

cirelaw · 03-13-2014, 01:22 PM

I just purchased a 1913 DWM unit marked luger from George Anderson and I am awaiting for its goodies. I was able to compare it with my 1913 DWM. They appear identical except for the proofs. Are they? ~~~Eric

John Sabato · 03-13-2014, 01:38 PM

They were built in two different factories. DWM was a commercial factory with a military contract. Erfurt was a government owned arsenal. Both were built using the same blueprints, but there will be minor variations between them because of manufacturing tolerances. I would guess that most parts might interchange okay, but would require some fitting (DON'T DO IT!)

As a test of this theory, I would bet that if you attempted to change the grips (if they are original to the guns) would not interchange because of minor machine differences. BE REALLY Careful that you don't give yourself the "million dollar chip" at the safety lever if you test fit the grips to the other guns.

cirelaw · 03-13-2014, 01:47 PM

John right on! The grip screws are not interchangeable and the grips are not even close!!!!

cirelaw · 03-13-2014, 04:15 PM

I just received the goodies~ Descpiptions to follow! PS Thank You George!!!

cirelaw · 03-13-2014, 04:46 PM

The rest! Also is the identity of the Doughboy from Mercedes, Texas who brought it back!! ~~~Way Cool!!

Neil Young · 03-13-2014, 05:02 PM

Very nice group and a beautiful pistol Eric.

ithacaartist · 03-14-2014, 01:01 AM

Great score Eric, twins from different mothers!

Sergio Natali · 03-14-2014, 10:59 AM

Eric,

What a beautiful pair of twins you've got!
I like the definition given by "Ithacaartist: "twin from different mothers"

Congratulations indeed, I bet you're quite happy with it!

Sergio

cirelaw · 03-14-2014, 11:06 AM

TKS They really appear to be twins except for their respective markings! An orinion, which backgroung to you prefer??

cirelaw · 03-14-2014, 02:17 PM

Super sharp blade!

Sergio Natali · 03-14-2014, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Super sharp blade!

Yes you can almost use it for shaving in the morning! :-)

About the favourite background I think I would prefer the first on top, to me it allowes you to focus better on the pistols (absence of shades too)

IMHO

Sergio

cirelaw · 03-14-2014, 03:45 PM

original background~

03-13-2014, 01:22 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Twins~ I just purchased a 1913 DWM unit marked luger from George Anderson and I am awaiting for its goodies. I was able to compare it with my 1913 DWM. They appear identical except for the proofs. Are they? ~~~Eric Attached Thumbnails

03-13-2014, 01:38 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	They were built in two different factories. DWM was a commercial factory with a military contract. Erfurt was a government owned arsenal. Both were built using the same blueprints, but there will be minor variations between them because of manufacturing tolerances. I would guess that most parts might interchange okay, but would require some fitting (DON'T DO IT!) As a test of this theory, I would bet that if you attempted to change the grips (if they are original to the guns) would not interchange because of minor machine differences. BE REALLY Careful that you don't give yourself the "million dollar chip" at the safety lever if you test fit the grips to the other guns. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-13-2014, 04:15 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I just received the goodies~ Descpiptions to follow! PS Thank You George!!! Attached Thumbnails

03-13-2014, 04:46 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	The rest! Also is the identity of the Doughboy from Mercedes, Texas who brought it back!! ~~~Way Cool!! Attached Thumbnails

03-13-2014, 05:02 PM	#6
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 547 Thanks: 566 Thanked 443 Times in 168 Posts	Very nice group and a beautiful pistol Eric. __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

03-13-2014, 01:47 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	John right on! The grip screws are not interchangeable and the grips are not even close!!!!

03-14-2014, 01:01 AM	#7
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,369 Thanks: 7,432 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,378 Posts	Great score Eric, twins from different mothers! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-14-2014, 10:59 AM	#8
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Eric, What a beautiful pair of twins you've got! I like the definition given by "Ithacaartist: "twin from different mothers" Congratulations indeed, I bet you're quite happy with it! Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

03-14-2014, 11:06 AM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	TKS They really appear to be twins except for their respective markings! An orinion, which backgroung to you prefer?? Attached Thumbnails

03-14-2014, 02:17 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I never realized just how deadly~ Super sharp blade! Attached Thumbnails

03-14-2014, 03:45 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I agree~ original background~ Attached Thumbnails