Need info on 1917 Erfurt -

socorep · 02-27-2011, 08:17 PM

Need help with info about this firearm.

Pics and info posted in New Collectors forum

FNorm · 02-27-2011, 10:44 PM

J,

I can't tell much more than you already know. What questions do you have? Too bad about the extractor. Tom Heller, a forum member. "Lugerdoc" may have a replacement.

The grips are worn, but I've seen worse. Usually beechwood in 1917. Need better close-up pics of the mag. bottom, and slot side.

The holster looks like it would come back with some TLC.

FN

socorep · 02-27-2011, 11:10 PM

I guess I was curious what some of the markings on it meant. And the value of gun and holster. I did read the FAQ's and saw that refinished guns and broken marked parts (extractor) diminish value, so I was curious what this might be worth with a replacement extractor.

I'll take a better pic of mag tomorrow.

Thanks

FNorm · 02-27-2011, 11:29 PM

Well, you have a 'd' block gun. That's the letter under the serial number on the front of the frame. 10,000 to a block. The stampings on the rt receiver: First three are acceptance marks F(?) R, P ?? These are old eyes. The last to the rt is the proof marking, an Erfurt eagle. One on the barrel base too, and the left side of the breech block. Erfurt inspectors marked everything but the springs. that's all the little marks you see all over the place.

Reblued and replace parts, put it in the shooter category. Hard to put a value on it without having it in hand. Less than a thousand.

FN

socorep · 03-02-2011, 12:08 AM

Here are better pictures of mag. You can see in next to last picture the "overspray" onto the side of the mag. Just seemed like an amateur job.

MFC · 03-02-2011, 12:23 AM

Looks like an aftermarket mag with an aluminium bottom that was spray painted to make it look like a bakelite bottom. Erfurts were issued with wood bottom mags.

socorep · 03-02-2011, 12:27 AM

Thanks

1969goatman · 03-02-2011, 12:47 AM

It's not a real magazine.

02-27-2011, 08:17 PM	#1
socorep User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need info on 1917 Erfurt - Need help with info about this firearm. Pics and info posted in New Collectors forum

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FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	J, I can't tell much more than you already know. What questions do you have? Too bad about the extractor. Tom Heller, a forum member. "Lugerdoc" may have a replacement. The grips are worn, but I've seen worse. Usually beechwood in 1917. Need better close-up pics of the mag. bottom, and slot side. The holster looks like it would come back with some TLC. FN Last edited by FNorm; 02-27-2011 at 10:46 PM. Reason: sp

03-02-2011, 12:08 AM	#5
socorep User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mag Here are better pictures of mag. You can see in next to last picture the "overspray" onto the side of the mag. Just seemed like an amateur job. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by socorep; 03-02-2011 at 05:45 PM. Reason: SP

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MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Looks like an aftermarket mag with an aluminium bottom that was spray painted to make it look like a bakelite bottom. Erfurts were issued with wood bottom mags. __________________ Mike C.

02-27-2011, 11:10 PM	#3
socorep User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess I was curious what some of the markings on it meant. And the value of gun and holster. I did read the FAQ's and saw that refinished guns and broken marked parts (extractor) diminish value, so I was curious what this might be worth with a replacement extractor. I'll take a better pic of mag tomorrow. Thanks

02-27-2011, 11:29 PM	#4
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Well, you have a 'd' block gun. That's the letter under the serial number on the front of the frame. 10,000 to a block. The stampings on the rt receiver: First three are acceptance marks F(?) R, P ?? These are old eyes. The last to the rt is the proof marking, an Erfurt eagle. One on the barrel base too, and the left side of the breech block. Erfurt inspectors marked everything but the springs. that's all the little marks you see all over the place. Reblued and replace parts, put it in the shooter category. Hard to put a value on it without having it in hand. Less than a thousand. FN

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socorep User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks

03-02-2011, 12:47 AM	#8
1969goatman Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's not a real magazine.