Source for screws?

SleazyRider · 05-18-2010, 02:09 PM

I'm looking for a sideplate screw for a 1907 Dreyse pistol, not exactly the kind of thing one find at Home Despot. It's the same thread as a metric grip screw, only a bit longer. Numrich is sold out.

Could someone suggest a source for small, metric fillister-head screws such as these? I really don't want to buy an assortment from Brownells and hope that the one I need is in there.

Thank you!

Curly1 · 05-18-2010, 02:26 PM

Try PMing Luger doc, Tom Heller, on this board. Or contact him at the following:

Gun Parts Sales & Repairs
Tom Heller (Luger Doc)
P O Box 398
St Charles MO 63302
Tel 636-447-3006
Email- hellerarms@webtv.net

Olle · 05-18-2010, 04:31 PM

Some of you might cringe at this, but anyway...

I ran into the same problem with my 1907 Dreyse, but after having the gun sitting for months without a screw I finally broke down and re-threaded the hole for a standard screw just do get it done. I turned down the screw head and filed a new slot (Brownells screw slot fixture worked great for this), and if you don't know about it you won't see a thing. I can't recall the size, but the existing hole was large enough for the tap to go through without re-drilling, but still small enough to get a good thread. Re-threading is of course a bit unorthodox, but the Dreyse is not a megadollar collectible (especially not the one I have...) so I didn't feel too bad about doing it.

By the way, before I did this I asked Brownells and they don't carry any metric assortments. If you find out what the thread is I would really like to know. These guns were made before the ISO-system was introduced, so it may be an old, defunct standard that you can't find anymore. I wasn't able to match it to any standard metric thread anyway.

Vlim · 05-18-2010, 05:26 PM

IIRC original German specs were actually based on UK / US specs.

Ron Wood · 05-18-2010, 05:48 PM

UK specs, Whitworth thread.

Rbrooks45 · 05-19-2010, 12:10 AM

The following link has your parts:

http://www.cds-ehrenreich.de/ersatzt/dreyse07.htm

Nr. Teil Preis
1 Verschlusshuelse 90,-
2 Gehause (ohne Nr.25) 90,-
3 Gelenkschraube 15,-
4 Riegel 35,-
5 Riegelfeder 10,-
6 Lauf (EWB) 90,-
7 Auswerfer 45,-
8 Auswerferschraube 15,-
9 Verschlußstück ohne Verschl.kopf 90,-
10 Bodenschraube 25,-
11 Verschlußkopf (EWB) 48,-
12 Schlagbolzen 40,-
l3 Schlagfeder 12,-
14 Signalstift 22,-
15 Auszieher 48,-
16 Federkapsel 40,-
17 Schliessfeder 22,-
Nr. Teil Preis (Euro)
18 Abzug 35,-
19 Abzugsfeder 6,-
20 Abzugsstange 45,-
20a Stangenhebel (mit Nr 20 abgebildet) 45,-
21 Abzugsstollen 45,-
22 Stollenfeder 6,-
23 Sicherung 48,-
24 Sicherungsfeder 30,-
25 Seitenplatte des Gehaeuses 48,-
26 Kopfschraube zur Seitenplatte 15,-
27+28 Paar Griffschalen -Neuf.- 31,-
29+30 Griffschalenschrauben, je 12,-
31 Magazin -Neufertigung- 35,-
32+33 nicht separat erhältlich
34 Magazinhalter 35,-
35 Feder zum Magazinhalter 6,-
36 Stift zum Magazinhalter 15,-
Teile nur begrenzt da, bitte anfragen !

05-18-2010, 02:09 PM	#1
SleazyRider User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 25 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Source for screws? I'm looking for a sideplate screw for a 1907 Dreyse pistol, not exactly the kind of thing one find at Home Despot. It's the same thread as a metric grip screw, only a bit longer. Numrich is sold out. Could someone suggest a source for small, metric fillister-head screws such as these? I really don't want to buy an assortment from Brownells and hope that the one I need is in there. Thank you!

05-18-2010, 02:26 PM	#2
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,247 Thanks: 125 Thanked 717 Times in 374 Posts	Try PMing Luger doc, Tom Heller, on this board. Or contact him at the following: Gun Parts Sales & Repairs Tom Heller (Luger Doc) P O Box 398 St Charles MO 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 Email- hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

05-18-2010, 05:48 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	UK specs, Whitworth thread. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-19-2010, 12:10 AM	#6
Rbrooks45 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The following link has your parts: http://www.cds-ehrenreich.de/ersatzt/dreyse07.htm Nr. Teil Preis 1 Verschlusshuelse 90,- 2 Gehause (ohne Nr.25) 90,- 3 Gelenkschraube 15,- 4 Riegel 35,- 5 Riegelfeder 10,- 6 Lauf (EWB) 90,- 7 Auswerfer 45,- 8 Auswerferschraube 15,- 9 Verschlußstück ohne Verschl.kopf 90,- 10 Bodenschraube 25,- 11 Verschlußkopf (EWB) 48,- 12 Schlagbolzen 40,- l3 Schlagfeder 12,- 14 Signalstift 22,- 15 Auszieher 48,- 16 Federkapsel 40,- 17 Schliessfeder 22,- Nr. Teil Preis (Euro) 18 Abzug 35,- 19 Abzugsfeder 6,- 20 Abzugsstange 45,- 20a Stangenhebel (mit Nr 20 abgebildet) 45,- 21 Abzugsstollen 45,- 22 Stollenfeder 6,- 23 Sicherung 48,- 24 Sicherungsfeder 30,- 25 Seitenplatte des Gehaeuses 48,- 26 Kopfschraube zur Seitenplatte 15,- 27+28 Paar Griffschalen -Neuf.- 31,- 29+30 Griffschalenschrauben, je 12,- 31 Magazin -Neufertigung- 35,- 32+33 nicht separat erhältlich 34 Magazinhalter 35,- 35 Feder zum Magazinhalter 6,- 36 Stift zum Magazinhalter 15,- Teile nur begrenzt da, bitte anfragen ! Attached Thumbnails

05-18-2010, 04:31 PM	#3
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 664 Times in 318 Posts	Some of you might cringe at this, but anyway... I ran into the same problem with my 1907 Dreyse, but after having the gun sitting for months without a screw I finally broke down and re-threaded the hole for a standard screw just do get it done. I turned down the screw head and filed a new slot (Brownells screw slot fixture worked great for this), and if you don't know about it you won't see a thing. I can't recall the size, but the existing hole was large enough for the tap to go through without re-drilling, but still small enough to get a good thread. Re-threading is of course a bit unorthodox, but the Dreyse is not a megadollar collectible (especially not the one I have...) so I didn't feel too bad about doing it. By the way, before I did this I asked Brownells and they don't carry any metric assortments. If you find out what the thread is I would really like to know. These guns were made before the ISO-system was introduced, so it may be an old, defunct standard that you can't find anymore. I wasn't able to match it to any standard metric thread anyway.

05-18-2010, 05:26 PM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	IIRC original German specs were actually based on UK / US specs.