New acquisition, BYF 42 date rig

DavidJayUden · 02-19-2009, 08:40 PM

I just bought a BYF marked, 42 date P-08, apparently original finish (salt blue), un-numbered black plastic grips, etc. Black Widow I presume, matching #6305 c. It came with 2 numbered but mis-matched alum. base mags., holster, etc.
Several questions:
My reference materials show that this one should have come with un-numbered black base magazines marked FXO and P.08. Do you agree with that? And if so, is there a suggested source for these (LugerDoc perhaps?), and what is the short term used to describe these mags? FXO?
I also will need a correct loading tool. Any special marks required to make one correct for this model?
Thank you for your help. I would take pictures but it looks about like any other dark Luger.

DJU

zinfull · 02-19-2009, 09:45 PM

"Like any other dark Luger"???? They all have some sort of charm and distinction. I think I have more pictures of my collection in my planner than I have of my kids.

What are the numbers on the magazines? You may be able to trade for black bottoms to match the grips.
Jerry

Silvereagle29 · 02-26-2009, 01:35 AM

DJU
Mauser almost ceased the numbering of Luger magazines at the end of the - u - block of the 41-byf production. From this point the normal was a fxo-SE-37-PO8 (rightside up P 08) marked magazine body. The magazines might have a black bakalite bottom or a concave pinned aluminum bottom. Normally, they were not numbered. However, "WaAmt" USA has become involved and many are now numbered. Be very careful of any 41 or 42 byf Luger beyond the - U - letter suffix with matching magazines. Some were numbered, you would have to have a Luger magazine expert in your pocket along with your glass to recognize the bad ones. Just life in the fast lane.
Don

Lugerdoc · 02-26-2009, 09:35 AM

David, You should have recieved the correct BPB/FXO mag for your 42BYF. The correct tool for this era would be one marked with an E/135. Sorry but I"m sold out of those. Since they only used that marking for about a year and a half, these mag loading tools are on the expensive side. TH

SparkyRock · 02-27-2009, 02:40 AM

I have the same pistol. My mags have the bakeo bottoms marked fxo and p08

I'm gonna have to get out the mag. glasg to read whats on my loader tool.

02-19-2009, 08:40 PM	#1
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	New acquisition, BYF 42 date rig I just bought a BYF marked, 42 date P-08, apparently original finish (salt blue), un-numbered black plastic grips, etc. Black Widow I presume, matching #6305 c. It came with 2 numbered but mis-matched alum. base mags., holster, etc. Several questions: My reference materials show that this one should have come with un-numbered black base magazines marked FXO and P.08. Do you agree with that? And if so, is there a suggested source for these (LugerDoc perhaps?), and what is the short term used to describe these mags? FXO? I also will need a correct loading tool. Any special marks required to make one correct for this model? Thank you for your help. I would take pictures but it looks about like any other dark Luger. DJU

02-26-2009, 09:35 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	David, You should have recieved the correct BPB/FXO mag for your 42BYF. The correct tool for this era would be one marked with an E/135. Sorry but I"m sold out of those. Since they only used that marking for about a year and a half, these mag loading tools are on the expensive side. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-19-2009, 09:45 PM	#2
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 240 Thanks: 4 Thanked 32 Times in 15 Posts	"Like any other dark Luger"???? They all have some sort of charm and distinction. I think I have more pictures of my collection in my planner than I have of my kids. What are the numbers on the magazines? You may be able to trade for black bottoms to match the grips. Jerry

02-26-2009, 01:35 AM	#3
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	DJU Mauser almost ceased the numbering of Luger magazines at the end of the - u - block of the 41-byf production. From this point the normal was a fxo-SE-37-PO8 (rightside up P 08) marked magazine body. The magazines might have a black bakalite bottom or a concave pinned aluminum bottom. Normally, they were not numbered. However, "WaAmt" USA has become involved and many are now numbered. Be very careful of any 41 or 42 byf Luger beyond the - U - letter suffix with matching magazines. Some were numbered, you would have to have a Luger magazine expert in your pocket along with your glass to recognize the bad ones. Just life in the fast lane. Don

02-27-2009, 02:40 AM	#5
SparkyRock User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have the same pistol. My mags have the bakeo bottoms marked fxo and p08 I'm gonna have to get out the mag. glasg to read whats on my loader tool.