action stuck open

humboldtdan · 05-14-2009, 02:58 AM

anybody know why my action would stick open and how to fix? Thanks

Steinar · 05-14-2009, 03:28 AM

..have you tried removing the magazine and then pull pack the toggle?

Ice · 05-14-2009, 07:13 AM

You might try removing the magazine and pulling the toggle back and looking to see if the holdopen is still sticking up. Could be that its stuck because of a bur or dried grease in the little slot.

Charlie

humboldtdan · 05-14-2009, 10:11 AM

I have removed mag and pulled back. is it possible to disassemble with toggle back? Sorry, I found the gun in this condition among my deceased fathers things, and am not that familiar with the luger, but have been looking at disassembly and it seems like the toggle needs to be forward for disassembly.
THANKS!

G.T. · 05-14-2009, 11:21 AM

CAREFULLY remove the right grip panel.......you can see alot with the grips removed, and also access the holdopen...good luck...til..lat'r...GT

sheepherder · 05-14-2009, 11:31 AM

I'd try pushing down on the part shown in the first pic...while holding back on the toggle...(it will bite you)...

Second pic shows the holdopen in released position...

John Sabato · 05-14-2009, 12:37 PM

humboldtdan,

Where are you located? Maybe a forum member lives close to you that could assist you FTF??

humboldtdan · 05-16-2009, 12:33 PM

I got it! Thanks to everyone that helped me. CHEERS!

sheepherder · 05-16-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humboldtdan

I got it! Thanks to everyone that helped me. CHEERS!

...You didn't say *how* you got it...or what the problem was...

Come on now...Did you beat it on your workbench??? Did you smack it good with a hammer (always my first choice)???

Was it jammed??? Did the holdopen spring break??? Dirt or yuck under/in the holdopen slot???

Somebody else will have this problem...please share your fix...

humboldtdan · 05-16-2009, 11:42 PM

Sorry about that-wish I would have took photos. Basically once I was able to break it down I found that the holdopen spring was bent such that the holdopen would not disengage unless manually held down. I bent it back in shape and now it works as it should, Thanks again to everyone. Im loooking forward to seeing how it shoots. By the way it looks like all the parts are numbered the same (even mags) except that there are two numbers that dont seem to match on the bolt that are Xed out. I assume that means these parts are from different guns? Does the gun maintain any collector value if not matching? Its a pretty tight piece.

alanint · 05-17-2009, 06:39 AM

You are probably looking at a number of "forced match" parts. Look closely at numbers such as the sideplates and see if metal was ground off in order to add a new number. THe "X"d out serials usually indicate a Russian Capture and posibly East German issue pistol. The matching magazines would indicate this as well.
If it were truly an all matching, including magazines gun I would not shoot it.

humboldtdan · 05-17-2009, 04:33 PM

it looks like the only xed out numbers are the ones I spoke of they are 52 compared to rest of gun which are 63 (9663). Magazines match the 9663. No evidence of metal removal. Also have nice holster with takedown tool. I have 3 mags. What does forced match mean?

05-14-2009, 02:58 AM	#1
humboldtdan User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	action stuck open anybody know why my action would stick open and how to fix? Thanks

05-14-2009, 03:28 AM	#2
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	..have you tried removing the magazine and then pull pack the toggle? __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-14-2009, 11:21 AM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	take the grips off! CAREFULLY remove the right grip panel.......you can see alot with the grips removed, and also access the holdopen...good luck...til..lat'r...GT

05-14-2009, 11:31 AM	#6
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	I'd try pushing down on the part shown in the first pic...while holding back on the toggle...(it will bite you)... Second pic shows the holdopen in released position... Attached Thumbnails

05-14-2009, 12:37 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	humboldtdan, Where are you located? Maybe a forum member lives close to you that could assist you FTF?? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-14-2009, 07:13 AM	#3
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	You might try removing the magazine and pulling the toggle back and looking to see if the holdopen is still sticking up. Could be that its stuck because of a bur or dried grease in the little slot. Charlie

05-14-2009, 10:11 AM	#4
humboldtdan User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have removed mag and pulled back. is it possible to disassemble with toggle back? Sorry, I found the gun in this condition among my deceased fathers things, and am not that familiar with the luger, but have been looking at disassembly and it seems like the toggle needs to be forward for disassembly. THANKS!

05-16-2009, 12:33 PM	#8
humboldtdan User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got it! Thanks to everyone that helped me. CHEERS!

05-16-2009, 11:42 PM	#10
humboldtdan User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry about that-wish I would have took photos. Basically once I was able to break it down I found that the holdopen spring was bent such that the holdopen would not disengage unless manually held down. I bent it back in shape and now it works as it should, Thanks again to everyone. Im loooking forward to seeing how it shoots. By the way it looks like all the parts are numbered the same (even mags) except that there are two numbers that dont seem to match on the bolt that are Xed out. I assume that means these parts are from different guns? Does the gun maintain any collector value if not matching? Its a pretty tight piece.

05-17-2009, 06:39 AM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	You are probably looking at a number of "forced match" parts. Look closely at numbers such as the sideplates and see if metal was ground off in order to add a new number. THe "X"d out serials usually indicate a Russian Capture and posibly East German issue pistol. The matching magazines would indicate this as well. If it were truly an all matching, including magazines gun I would not shoot it.

05-17-2009, 04:33 PM	#12
humboldtdan User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it looks like the only xed out numbers are the ones I spoke of they are 52 compared to rest of gun which are 63 (9663). Magazines match the 9663. No evidence of metal removal. Also have nice holster with takedown tool. I have 3 mags. What does forced match mean?