new luger owner

dsswartz · 06-18-2008, 06:12 PM

Just bought a luger. I bought it to shoot, it looks to have parts from two guns. I thing the mag must be after market as there are no marking on it. I've taken it apart cleaned it up and have shot it. It has some bugs and I was hoping they may sound familiar to someone. First I don't seem to have a lock open latch on this gun. Were they ever made without this? The action will hang up on the mag once in awhile. When it does this I can give a tug on the bottom of the mag and the action will close. Thought this may be due to the missing latch. The other bug is I can not work the action with the safety on unless the firing pin is already cocked. This seems odd to me, is it normal?
Thanks

Edward Tinker · 06-18-2008, 06:19 PM

welcome to the forum. Pictures or better description would help know what model your frame is and upper receiver? dates, writing, pictures, etc.

If it catches and holds open every now and then, it is probably either a worn hold open or a worn magazine and not missing

ed

Ron Wood · 06-18-2008, 07:48 PM

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The other bug is I can not work the action with the safety on unless the firing pin is already cocked.

That is absolutely correct functioning. If the safety is on and the firing pin not cocked, the sear bar cannot move outward to clear the stud on the firing pin when you attempt to work the action. Once the firing pin is cocked, that is not a problem. On the earlier model Lugers before the sear bar was relieved to allow rearward travel of the receiver with the safety on, you could not work the action with or without the firing pin cocked. Relieving the sear bar allows a loaded weapon to be cleared with the safety on.

dsswartz · 06-19-2008, 08:38 AM

Thanks for the replies, a lot quicker than I would have imagined! I've taken some pictures, just not sure how to post them yet. The frame is stamped 1388 with what may be a R. There are lots of small stamps under the grips B,L,I,F,P,44 and G. At the front inside there is N over PPO. At the front of the frame in the grip area there is a very stylish B.R.S.1.112. The upper receiver is stamped 1938 with serial number 4575. The toggle is stamped 88 and has a very stylish mark on the center toggle link.
Thanks Ron for the info on the safety. Makes sense when I look at how it works.

dsswartz · 06-19-2008, 08:54 AM

Steinar · 06-19-2008, 09:11 AM

If you want comments on it.. you will probably hear that it's 'buffed', relbued and a mix of at least three lugers.

But it's a nice Luger, probably a great shooter and with some interesting unit markings on the frame. Congrats! (that is.. if you recently purchased it)

Lugerdoc · 06-19-2008, 09:38 AM

DES, As Ron mentioned above; pre 1916 PO8s did not have the relieve sear bar, unless reworked later. Since yours is a mismatch, I do have the relieved sears available should your desire to change it, although some fitting may be required. hellerarms@webtv.net

Edward Tinker · 06-19-2008, 10:49 AM

nice gun with a nice unit marking though

John Sabato · 06-19-2008, 11:04 AM

based on your photo of the diassembled pistol, your Luger was produced without the Holdopen feature and was never updated. That is why it doesn't stay open after the last shot.

Ron Smith · 06-19-2008, 11:07 AM

The unit marking is an Imperial Bavarian Reserve Schutzen Regiment 1 weapon #112 unit mark. WWI frame with WWII receiver.

dsswartz · 06-19-2008, 12:25 PM

Well, I didn't think I bought a collectable when I bought it. Wouldn't have been disappointed to find out it was worth thousands though. I gave $350.00 for it at a private sale. Didn't know if that was good or bad but I've wanted one of these since I was a kid. It will be as much fun to shoot as my 1911. Have to get myself a tommy gun next.
Any suggestions on replacement mags?

Edward Tinker · 06-19-2008, 01:28 PM

In order of what I find the most reliable for shooting;

DDR made (in good shape) magazines
MecGar silver bodied mags (these are post-war)
WW2 mags in good shape
Any other German made pre-WW2 magazines

Ed

Lugerdoc · 06-20-2008, 10:26 AM

DES et al, I have new MecGar (best of the current production) mags in stock: blued @$25 and nickel @$30. Lugerdoc

dsswartz · 06-20-2008, 05:01 PM

Sounds like a good price on the mags. Do you sell on line or can you send me ordering information.

06-18-2008, 06:19 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	welcome to the forum. Pictures or better description would help know what model your frame is and upper receiver? dates, writing, pictures, etc. If it catches and holds open every now and then, it is probably either a worn hold open or a worn magazine and not missing ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-19-2008, 08:54 AM	#5
dsswartz User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holmesville, Ohio Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	luger Pics

06-19-2008, 09:11 AM	#6
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	If you want comments on it.. you will probably hear that it's 'buffed', relbued and a mix of at least three lugers. But it's a nice Luger, probably a great shooter and with some interesting unit markings on the frame. Congrats! (that is.. if you recently purchased it) __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

06-19-2008, 09:38 AM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	DES, As Ron mentioned above; pre 1916 PO8s did not have the relieve sear bar, unless reworked later. Since yours is a mismatch, I do have the relieved sears available should your desire to change it, although some fitting may be required. hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-19-2008, 10:49 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	nice gun with a nice unit marking though __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-18-2008, 06:12 PM	#1
dsswartz User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holmesville, Ohio Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	new luger owner Just bought a luger. I bought it to shoot, it looks to have parts from two guns. I thing the mag must be after market as there are no marking on it. I've taken it apart cleaned it up and have shot it. It has some bugs and I was hoping they may sound familiar to someone. First I don't seem to have a lock open latch on this gun. Were they ever made without this? The action will hang up on the mag once in awhile. When it does this I can give a tug on the bottom of the mag and the action will close. Thought this may be due to the missing latch. The other bug is I can not work the action with the safety on unless the firing pin is already cocked. This seems odd to me, is it normal? Thanks

06-19-2008, 08:38 AM	#4
dsswartz User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holmesville, Ohio Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the replies, a lot quicker than I would have imagined! I've taken some pictures, just not sure how to post them yet. The frame is stamped 1388 with what may be a R. There are lots of small stamps under the grips B,L,I,F,P,44 and G. At the front inside there is N over PPO. At the front of the frame in the grip area there is a very stylish B.R.S.1.112. The upper receiver is stamped 1938 with serial number 4575. The toggle is stamped 88 and has a very stylish mark on the center toggle link. Thanks Ron for the info on the safety. Makes sense when I look at how it works.

06-19-2008, 11:04 AM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	based on your photo of the diassembled pistol, your Luger was produced without the Holdopen feature and was never updated. That is why it doesn't stay open after the last shot. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-19-2008, 11:07 AM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The unit marking is an Imperial *Bavarian Reserve* Schutzen Regiment 1 weapon #112 unit mark. WWI frame with WWII receiver. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~** said...

06-19-2008, 12:25 PM	#11
dsswartz User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holmesville, Ohio Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I didn't think I bought a collectable when I bought it. Wouldn't have been disappointed to find out it was worth thousands though. I gave $350.00 for it at a private sale. Didn't know if that was good or bad but I've wanted one of these since I was a kid. It will be as much fun to shoot as my 1911. Have to get myself a tommy gun next. Any suggestions on replacement mags?

06-19-2008, 01:28 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	In order of what I find the most reliable for shooting; DDR made (in good shape) magazines MecGar silver bodied mags (these are post-war) WW2 mags in good shape Any other German made pre-WW2 magazines Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-20-2008, 10:26 AM	#13
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	DES et al, I have new MecGar (best of the current production) mags in stock: blued @$25 and nickel @$30. Lugerdoc __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-20-2008, 05:01 PM	#14
dsswartz User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holmesville, Ohio Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like a good price on the mags. Do you sell on line or can you send me ordering information.