Restoration Advice

jsmith · 06-20-2007, 04:45 PM

Hi, I've attached photos of a Luger I'm concidering having Reblued. Do you think It would hurt it's value ? As you can see it's missing a few parts. But it's such a rare model, what do you think it's worth ? I hope my picture come through. Thanks, Jimbo

stefanosg · 06-20-2007, 06:38 PM

Rod WMG · 06-20-2007, 08:53 PM

How does it shoot? Is the rifling still good?

the gunman · 06-20-2007, 08:53 PM

There are dealers on gunbroker that would grade that as 80%

Edward Tinker · 06-20-2007, 09:02 PM

I think I see a unit marking (or 10 unit marks...)

lugerholsterrepair · 06-20-2007, 09:21 PM

Could you show a photo with the toggle pulled back? Thanks, Jerry Burney

rolandtg · 06-20-2007, 11:12 PM

Did anything else survive the fire?

At least you can say it's all matching!

Steinar · 06-21-2007, 09:09 AM

If you leave it as it is, it would lower the value of the fence

jsmith · 06-21-2007, 10:07 AM

I think it's a Russian Model, as it was dug up in Russia !!
Believe it or not, somebody actually tried to beat the toggle back (I wish he'd left it alone). I know these Russian Diggers sometime dig up pistols and get them to shoot, usually tokarev's though.
On the broomhandle forum, I met a guy who cut up a Early Cone hammer C96 for parts. I would have left it a Wall-hanger.
I know another guy with a heavily pitted Bergman - Bayard, he got it to cycle (Not shoot) even though he didn't take it apart.
Thanks for all the great advice ! Jimbo

Aaron · 06-21-2007, 04:18 PM

Who would have guessed there was a Luger on board the Titanic?

davidkachel · 06-21-2007, 05:26 PM

Refinish the fence. Better investment.
However, this does give me a wonderful idea for the world's greatest door knocker!

gunman, only 80%?

DaveinTN · 06-21-2007, 05:56 PM

Jimbo,

It really "irks" me to see all the nay-sayers come to the attack. They suffer from a dreadful malady called Halitosis of the Mind, more commonly known as "stinkin' thinkin'."

By refinishing the pitiful carcass you've submitted, I think you have the potential to be known forever after as a miracle maker!

I hope the photo below stimulates your ambition and enthusiasm to do great things!

Best wishes,

Dave in TN.

John Sabato · 06-21-2007, 06:02 PM

Excellent Photo work DaveinTN! This is a great thread... lots of imagination used here

Ray · 06-21-2007, 10:46 PM

Jimbo, how did the luger go from a non grip safety type to a grip
safety one? The is considerable machining involved in this trans-
formation.

jsmith · 06-22-2007, 04:28 PM

I have to give credit to my Gunsmith, Dave in Tenn. I always wanted a grip Safety model. So, he made it happen for me! I still need a correct Magazine for it, If anyone can help, condition is unimportant, Dave can fix anything. If I didn't know better, I'd swear it wasn't the same gun ! Fast turn around too.

DaveinTN · 06-22-2007, 06:25 PM

Jimbo,

Many thanks for the kind compliment. As you may have unfortunately found, the modifications I made to your pistol are only superficial. Also, I only refinished one side.

Like the TV show "Pimp My Ride," modifications are only skin deep. The crummy engine is still under the hood. In other words, DON'T TRY TO SHOOT YOUR GUN!

To illustrate, I took a jigsaw to the left grip. The result is quite obvious...

Dave in TN.

jsmith · 06-22-2007, 07:27 PM

OMG ! I better go out to my fence and see for myself. I guess thats why no gaurentee was offered ! ? Oh well, you get what you pay for, Huh ? Jimbo

Ron Wood · 06-22-2007, 08:26 PM

Someone is WAY too skillful with Photoshop and has WAY too much time on their hands!

(Wish I could do that)

06-20-2007, 04:45 PM	#1
jsmith User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Restoration Advice Hi, I've attached photos of a Luger I'm concidering having Reblued. Do you think It would hurt it's value ? As you can see it's missing a few parts. But it's such a rare model, what do you think it's worth ? I hope my picture come through. Thanks, Jimbo Attached Thumbnails

06-20-2007, 06:38 PM	#2
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06-20-2007, 09:21 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Could you show a photo with the toggle pulled back? Thanks, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-21-2007, 09:09 AM	#8
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06-21-2007, 05:26 PM	#11
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Refinish the fence. Better investment. However, this does give me a wonderful idea for the world's greatest door knocker! gunman, only 80%? __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

06-20-2007, 08:53 PM	#3
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How does it shoot? Is the rifling still good?

06-20-2007, 08:53 PM	#4
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	There are dealers on gunbroker that would grade that as 80%

06-20-2007, 09:02 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	I think I see a unit marking (or 10 unit marks...)

06-20-2007, 11:12 PM	#7
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Did anything else survive the fire? At least you can say it's all matching!

06-21-2007, 10:07 AM	#9
jsmith User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I think it's a Russian Model, as it was dug up in Russia !! Believe it or not, somebody actually tried to beat the toggle back (I wish he'd left it alone). I know these Russian Diggers sometime dig up pistols and get them to shoot, usually tokarev's though. On the broomhandle forum, I met a guy who cut up a Early Cone hammer C96 for parts. I would have left it a Wall-hanger. I know another guy with a heavily pitted Bergman - Bayard, he got it to cycle (Not shoot) even though he didn't take it apart. Thanks for all the great advice ! Jimbo

06-21-2007, 04:18 PM	#10
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Who would have guessed there was a Luger on board the Titanic?

06-21-2007, 05:56 PM	#12
DaveinTN User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 186 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Jimbo, It really "irks" me to see all the nay-sayers come to the attack. They suffer from a dreadful malady called Halitosis of the Mind, more commonly known as "stinkin' thinkin'." By refinishing the pitiful carcass you've submitted, I think you have the potential to be known forever after as a miracle maker! I hope the photo below stimulates your ambition and enthusiasm to do great things! Best wishes, Dave in TN. Attached Thumbnails

06-21-2007, 06:02 PM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Excellent Photo work DaveinTN! This is a great thread... lots of imagination used here __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-21-2007, 10:46 PM	#14
Ray User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 127 Thanks: 2 Thanked 37 Times in 16 Posts	Jimbo, how did the luger go from a non grip safety type to a grip safety one? The is considerable machining involved in this trans- formation.

06-22-2007, 04:28 PM	#15
jsmith User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I have to give credit to my Gunsmith, Dave in Tenn. I always wanted a grip Safety model. So, he made it happen for me! I still need a correct Magazine for it, If anyone can help, condition is unimportant, Dave can fix anything. If I didn't know better, I'd swear it wasn't the same gun ! Fast turn around too.

06-22-2007, 06:25 PM	#16
DaveinTN User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 186 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Jimbo, Many thanks for the kind compliment. As you may have unfortunately found, the modifications I made to your pistol are only superficial. Also, I only refinished one side. Like the TV show "Pimp My Ride," modifications are only skin deep. The crummy engine is still under the hood. In other words, DON'T TRY TO SHOOT YOUR GUN! To illustrate, I took a jigsaw to the left grip. The result is quite obvious... Dave in TN. Attached Thumbnails

06-22-2007, 07:27 PM	#17
jsmith User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	OMG ! I better go out to my fence and see for myself. I guess thats why no gaurentee was offered ! ? Oh well, you get what you pay for, Huh ? Jimbo

06-22-2007, 08:26 PM	#18
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Someone is WAY too skillful with Photoshop and has WAY too much time on their hands! (Wish I could do that) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction