New P08 Help Please

josef · 05-29-2007, 03:03 AM

Can anyone help identify this P08 belonging to my friend? He believes this is a commercial variant used by police. Any input at all would be appreciated, thanks very much Gentlemen

josef · 05-29-2007, 03:14 AM

is this round mag spring rare?

George Anderson · 05-29-2007, 07:05 AM

It is a 1913 dated P08 (military). Weimar property marking was added 1920 or later.

At some point, probably during the twenties, the pistol was put into police use as is evidenced by the grip strap marking. As the police marking has been X'd out and there is no police safety, it may have subsequently left police service and gone back to the military.

CROLUGER · 05-30-2007, 12:15 PM

We can change parts (35)

. My is DWM 1915, number: 935a.

Don M · 05-30-2007, 04:19 PM

Joseph,

I'll let others comment on the gun itself but I agree with George that it probably left police service. In fact, it may have been in police service only a few years in the Sicherheitspolizei, the forerunner of the Schutzpolizei that was disbanded in October 1920 (officially!). The reason I say this is that the canceled marking which appears to be S.Mo.II. 48. does not conform to any known Schupo marking.

Thanks for posting this. I'll have to ponder what it might mean.

Jan CZ · 05-31-2007, 02:28 AM

Don, the third letter is "e" so should it be Merseburg?

Jan

Don M · 05-31-2007, 11:09 AM

Aha! Someone with better eyesight. You're quite right Jan. Thanks --- I would have been puzzling over this for a long time.

Jan CZ · 05-31-2007, 12:05 PM

No Don, your eyes are pretty good... This was only personall inspection as this Luger is sitting on my desk. Having problems with posting pics I asked my best friend for it....

05-29-2007, 03:03 AM	#1
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	New P08 Help Please Can anyone help identify this P08 belonging to my friend? He believes this is a commercial variant used by police. Any input at all would be appreciated, thanks very much Gentlemen

05-30-2007, 12:15 PM	#4
CROLUGER User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Croatia. Posts: 134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Nice We can change parts (35) . My is DWM 1915, number: 935a. __________________ Luger DWM 1915, Luger BYF 1942, Walther P-38 AC43 & CYQ 1944, Mauser Hsc, Steyr 1909, Frommer Stop 1916, SA XD HS 45, Beretta M34, M70, M72, M950B, 92FS, Browning 1910/22, CZ M-48, CZ PAP M59/66, Winchester 9422M, GLOCK 19.

05-30-2007, 04:19 PM	#5
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Joseph, I'll let others comment on the gun itself but I agree with George that it probably left police service. In fact, it may have been in police service only a few years in the Sicherheitspolizei, the forerunner of the Schutzpolizei that was disbanded in October 1920 (officially!). The reason I say this is that the canceled marking which appears to be S.Mo.II. 48. does not conform to any known Schupo marking. Thanks for posting this. I'll have to ponder what it might mean. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

05-31-2007, 11:09 AM	#7
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Aha! Someone with better eyesight. You're quite right Jan. Thanks --- I would have been puzzling over this for a long time. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

05-29-2007, 03:14 AM	#2
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	is this round mag spring rare?

05-29-2007, 07:05 AM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	It is a 1913 dated P08 (military). Weimar property marking was added 1920 or later. At some point, probably during the twenties, the pistol was put into police use as is evidenced by the grip strap marking. As the police marking has been X'd out and there is no police safety, it may have subsequently left police service and gone back to the military.

05-31-2007, 02:28 AM	#6
Jan CZ User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Czech republic Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don, the third letter is "e" so should it be Merseburg? Jan

05-31-2007, 12:05 PM	#8
Jan CZ User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Czech republic Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No Don, your eyes are pretty good... This was only personall inspection as this Luger is sitting on my desk. Having problems with posting pics I asked my best friend for it....