High Power help

Stu · 08-12-2006, 11:26 AM

Hi all. I've acquired a 1942 german HP with a problem; the fron site and barrel bushing are slightly loose.

My question is would you trust re-staking the front site to any average gunsmith or is this a job requiring a more specialist level of skill ?

The gun in question is all original and in nice shape so I don't want to run the risk of any damage to the original parts.

Many thanks, Stu

Aaron · 08-12-2006, 04:46 PM

Tough to answer. If it were mine, I would leave it alone.

policeluger · 08-12-2006, 05:37 PM

I normally do a little tig weld from the inside and it holds tight.....you can email, I can supply lot of references from LF alone....

LugerVern · 08-12-2006, 07:11 PM

Ok, I am going to ask a stupid question:

Could someone explain to me the barrel bushing arrangement of a German HP?
I have owned several non German HPÃ¢??sÃ¢??s over the years and none had barrel bushings- this being one of the parts Browning eliminatedÃ¢??are the bushings pressed into the frame? Never having had a problem, I may have over looked this.
I was looking at the schematics on the Brownells web site and they donÃ¢??t show a bushing either.

Vern

policeluger · 08-12-2006, 07:27 PM

I have heard this misnomer many times, look at the slide at the muzzle, there ia a small machined in barrel band, have been here before I was not worried over his nomenclature..

Stu · 08-14-2006, 07:06 PM

Thanks for the comments guys. Now I'm confused; I've owned a couple modern HP's and never seen anything like this bushing myself !

Do I have some weird mod ? The 'bushing' I'm referring to is just like that of a 1911, but is held in place by the front sight which is staked through a hole in the bushing. The muzzle of the barrel rides through this bushing which is maybe 1/2" long.

I believe this is a mid 42 production gun which look righteous in all other aspects, has it been messed with ? I assumed it was just a production step streamlined out at a later date.

I just came across this auction and if you look at the muzzle picture and look at the tooling marks on the 'bushing' it does seem to be a seperate piece ?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=54092691

Stu

policeluger · 08-14-2006, 07:46 PM

Its not a seperate piece, it is a machined in place/part of the slide, band.

Stu · 08-15-2006, 07:13 PM

Still confused; the piece I have is definitely a seperate part, it can be moved within the front of the slide. The profile seem a match for later guns.

Can anyone help clarify this ? Possibly this is a repair ? Maybe the front of the slide was damaged and someone made a bushing to fit and staked it in place with the front sight.

I'll try to get pictures to post as I'm now much distressed !

Hoot · 08-26-2006, 02:07 AM

From the photo, it looks like a separate part. I'm no expert, but I've handled more than a few Hi-Powers, and I've never seen anything like this. I'd really like to see more photos when you get the gun. Thanks for pointing this out!

Also, I wouldn't be in a hurry to change anything about this without more information.

Hoot

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82...r/IMG_3502.jpg

08-12-2006, 11:26 AM	#1
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	High Power help Hi all. I've acquired a 1942 german HP with a problem; the fron site and barrel bushing are slightly loose. My question is would you trust re-staking the front site to any average gunsmith or is this a job requiring a more specialist level of skill ? The gun in question is all original and in nice shape so I don't want to run the risk of any damage to the original parts. Many thanks, Stu

08-26-2006, 02:07 AM	#9
Hoot User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 26 Thanks: 82 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	From the photo, it looks like a separate part. I'm no expert, but I've handled more than a few Hi-Powers, and I've never seen anything like this. I'd really like to see more photos when you get the gun. Thanks for pointing this out! Also, I wouldn't be in a hurry to change anything about this without more information. Hoot http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82...r/IMG_3502.jpg __________________ It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

08-12-2006, 04:46 PM	#2
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Tough to answer. If it were mine, I would leave it alone.

08-12-2006, 05:37 PM	#3
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I normally do a little tig weld from the inside and it holds tight.....you can email, I can supply lot of references from LF alone....

08-12-2006, 07:11 PM	#4
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	Ok, I am going to ask a stupid question: Could someone explain to me the barrel bushing arrangement of a German HP? I have owned several non German HPÃ¢??sÃ¢??s over the years and none had barrel bushings- this being one of the parts Browning eliminatedÃ¢??are the bushings pressed into the frame? Never having had a problem, I may have over looked this. I was looking at the schematics on the Brownells web site and they donÃ¢??t show a bushing either. Vern

08-12-2006, 07:27 PM	#5
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I have heard this misnomer many times, look at the slide at the muzzle, there ia a small machined in barrel band, have been here before I was not worried over his nomenclature..

08-14-2006, 07:06 PM	#6
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Thanks for the comments guys. Now I'm confused; I've owned a couple modern HP's and never seen anything like this bushing myself ! Do I have some weird mod ? The 'bushing' I'm referring to is just like that of a 1911, but is held in place by the front sight which is staked through a hole in the bushing. The muzzle of the barrel rides through this bushing which is maybe 1/2" long. I believe this is a mid 42 production gun which look righteous in all other aspects, has it been messed with ? I assumed it was just a production step streamlined out at a later date. I just came across this auction and if you look at the muzzle picture and look at the tooling marks on the 'bushing' it does seem to be a seperate piece ? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=54092691 Stu

08-14-2006, 07:46 PM	#7
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Its not a seperate piece, it is a machined in place/part of the slide, band.

08-15-2006, 07:13 PM	#8
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Still confused; the piece I have is definitely a seperate part, it can be moved within the front of the slide. The profile seem a match for later guns. Can anyone help clarify this ? Possibly this is a repair ? Maybe the front of the slide was damaged and someone made a bushing to fit and staked it in place with the front sight. I'll try to get pictures to post as I'm now much distressed !