My first Luger,

mikej · 03-21-2005, 04:42 PM

Hello,
My name is mike and I am a Luger newbie, I have just purchased my first Luger any help identifying it would be appreciated also please feel free to comment.

Thank you, Mike

policeluger · 03-21-2005, 04:56 PM

A photo of the top of the toggle would help, but by the proofs it an Erfurt made Luger made during WW1 period. All numbers match that I can see, looks like someone took a bit off of wood off the left grip, really hurting is value, if clip is matched would increase value, but looks to have a very nice original finish......please tell us chamber date or better yet a picture would be real nice....thanks and welcome to the forum!!

mikej · 03-21-2005, 06:47 PM

Thanks for the information, I will add 2 pix of the toggle and chamber now (if I do it right) the chamber date is 1918 and all numbers I can find match including the magazine. Any idea on current value?

Thanks, Mike

mikej · 03-21-2005, 06:49 PM

Sorry only 1 pix loaded, I will try #2 again

Thanks, Mike

Stu · 03-21-2005, 09:18 PM

Hi Mike. I'm a great fan of Erfurts and your's certainly looks nice. Are the grips numbered to the gun ? What condition's the sideplate in ?

mikej · 03-21-2005, 09:53 PM

Stu, the side plate is currently missing, my uncle (who I got the gun from) thinks he remembers where it is and is looking for it. (hope he finds it). The bore is excellent and judging by wear on the parts I would say its been fired very little, the grips are not numbered at all but the left one has a faint "N" stamped on the back. Any idea of value, not interested in parting with at the moment but am very curious. Also anything you can tell me about it would be appreciated.

Mike

Pete Ebbink · 03-21-2005, 10:05 PM

Hi Mike,

Simspons LTD have a few Erufrts for sale...their prices are a bit high since they are a retail shop...prices between private collectors are usally 15% or more less expensive :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/...urt_lugers.htm

The chip in your left grip panels hurts price some but your missing side plate is a real problem if the original cannot be located and you replace with another one not numbered or not matching your pistols last 2-digit of the serial numbers. I also noticed your grip screws are not Erfurt proofed...

Does you magazine match the gun's serial number ? If not, that lowers price a bit too, as well.

Regards,

Pete...

Dwight Gruber · 03-21-2005, 10:11 PM

By 1918 Erfurt's practice of inspector-stamping the grip screws had been abandoned.

--Dwight

mikej · 03-21-2005, 10:41 PM

Hi Pete,
Thanks for the input, yes the mag #'s match, the only problem is the missing side plate, if the side plate is lost forever, will the gun function correctly with any sideplate or does it need to be a particular model?

Edward Tinker · 03-21-2005, 10:46 PM

Any sideplate "could" work, but many of them were hand-fitted, so it can be iffy on how it will function.

With a replacement sideplate, collector value goes waaaay down, so have him look like a son of a gun for it.

Ed

mikej · 03-21-2005, 11:13 PM

Thanks Ed,

George Anderson · 03-22-2005, 12:24 AM

Without the side plate $400 with and matched $800.

03-21-2005, 04:42 PM	#1
mikej User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My first Luger, Hello, My name is mike and I am a Luger newbie, I have just purchased my first Luger any help identifying it would be appreciated also please feel free to comment. Thank you, Mike

03-21-2005, 04:56 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	A photo of the top of the toggle would help, but by the proofs it an Erfurt made Luger made during WW1 period. All numbers match that I can see, looks like someone took a bit off of wood off the left grip, really hurting is value, if clip is matched would increase value, but looks to have a very nice original finish......please tell us chamber date or better yet a picture would be real nice....thanks and welcome to the forum!!

03-21-2005, 06:47 PM	#3
mikej User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the information, I will add 2 pix of the toggle and chamber now (if I do it right) the chamber date is 1918 and all numbers I can find match including the magazine. Any idea on current value? Thanks, Mike

03-21-2005, 06:49 PM	#4
mikej User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry only 1 pix loaded, I will try #2 again Thanks, Mike

03-21-2005, 09:18 PM	#5
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Hi Mike. I'm a great fan of Erfurts and your's certainly looks nice. Are the grips numbered to the gun ? What condition's the sideplate in ?

03-21-2005, 09:53 PM	#6
mikej User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stu, the side plate is currently missing, my uncle (who I got the gun from) thinks he remembers where it is and is looking for it. (hope he finds it). The bore is excellent and judging by wear on the parts I would say its been fired very little, the grips are not numbered at all but the left one has a faint "N" stamped on the back. Any idea of value, not interested in parting with at the moment but am very curious. Also anything you can tell me about it would be appreciated. Mike

03-21-2005, 10:05 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Mike, Simspons LTD have a few Erufrts for sale...their prices are a bit high since they are a retail shop...prices between private collectors are usally 15% or more less expensive : http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/...urt_lugers.htm The chip in your left grip panels hurts price some but your missing side plate is a real problem if the original cannot be located and you replace with another one not numbered or not matching your pistols last 2-digit of the serial numbers. I also noticed your grip screws are not Erfurt proofed... Does you magazine match the gun's serial number ? If not, that lowers price a bit too, as well. Regards, Pete...

03-21-2005, 10:11 PM	#8
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	By 1918 Erfurt's practice of inspector-stamping the grip screws had been abandoned. --Dwight

03-21-2005, 10:41 PM	#9
mikej User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Pete, Thanks for the input, yes the mag #'s match, the only problem is the missing side plate, if the side plate is lost forever, will the gun function correctly with any sideplate or does it need to be a particular model?

03-21-2005, 10:46 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Any sideplate "could" work, but many of them were hand-fitted, so it can be iffy on how it will function. With a replacement sideplate, collector value goes waaaay down, so have him look like a son of a gun for it. Ed

03-21-2005, 11:13 PM	#11
mikej User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed,

03-22-2005, 12:24 AM	#12
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Without the side plate $400 with and matched $800.