Erfurt Magazine Question...

Pete Ebbink · 07-18-2003, 07:15 PM

I have just created a Member's Gallery photo study of a pretty decent Erfurt magazine I was able to pick up a few weeks back.

Would appreciate folks taking a look and giving me your opinions :

1. Is this magazine the "real deal"...?

2. Are two (2) Erfurt proofs on the wooden base typical and/or correct/proper...? I have seen 3 other Erfurt magazines that had only one (1) proof stamp...so don't know what is what...

The photos are high resolution, so if you click on each photo several times, the view gets better and more detailed...

Thanks for your help...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

drbuster · 07-18-2003, 10:43 PM

Pete, recall all the brou ha ha with my "1914" receiver dated 1917 Erfurt. I learned from Jan Still and others that when the "later" Erfurt models were released, with the relieved breechblocks and stock lugs (1915 and later) the clip bottoms were single proofed. This is a trademark of a "later" Erfurt, especially 1917 and 1918.

Herb · 07-18-2003, 11:26 PM

Pete I have an Erfurt mag that is douple proofed, a crown something on the front and a crown 'B' on the rear, Wood bottom nickel tube. Pic available if you want.

Pete Ebbink · 07-19-2003, 07:12 PM

Hello Doc,

In my readings of Still's Imperial Lugers(IL), the nickle alloy plating on Erfurt magazine tubes came about around 1913 (page 81). So my magazine is probably 1913 or 1914. Cannot be a 1915, since no 1915 dated Erfurts exist...

In reviewing the magazine photos in the IL book, it appears that Erfurt dropped to a single proof on the magazine bottom by 1916...and there after...

The close-up photo in my Member's Gallery of the magazine loading button also shows the typical "flat" checkering that is unique to Erufrt (see IL book, page 82) and is quite different to the DWM checkering on their loading button...

Hello Herb,

Why not bring your magazine to Reno next month and we can compare, side-by-side...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Herb · 07-19-2003, 07:57 PM

Pete, I'll have it in tow, will be interesting to see another one and to compare them side by side. Mine is in really good shape, probably the best of my nickel plated ones.

07-18-2003, 07:15 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Erfurt Magazine Question... I have just created a Member's Gallery photo study of a pretty decent Erfurt magazine I was able to pick up a few weeks back. Would appreciate folks taking a look and giving me your opinions : 1. Is this magazine the "real deal"...? 2. Are two (2) Erfurt proofs on the wooden base typical and/or correct/proper...? I have seen 3 other Erfurt magazines that had only one (1) proof stamp...so don't know what is what... The photos are high resolution, so if you click on each photo several times, the view gets better and more detailed... Thanks for your help... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

07-18-2003, 11:26 PM	#3
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Pete I have an Erfurt mag that is douple proofed, a crown something on the front and a crown 'B' on the rear, Wood bottom nickel tube. Pic available if you want. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

07-19-2003, 07:57 PM	#5
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Pete, I'll have it in tow, will be interesting to see another one and to compare them side by side. Mine is in really good shape, probably the best of my nickel plated ones. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

07-18-2003, 10:43 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Pete, recall all the brou ha ha with my "1914" receiver dated 1917 Erfurt. I learned from Jan Still and others that when the "later" Erfurt models were released, with the relieved breechblocks and stock lugs (1915 and later) the clip bottoms were single proofed. This is a trademark of a "later" Erfurt, especially 1917 and 1918.

07-19-2003, 07:12 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Doc, In my readings of Still's Imperial Lugers(IL), the nickle alloy plating on Erfurt magazine tubes came about around 1913 (page 81). So my magazine is probably 1913 or 1914. Cannot be a 1915, since no 1915 dated Erfurts exist... In reviewing the magazine photos in the IL book, it appears that Erfurt dropped to a single proof on the magazine bottom by 1916...and there after... The close-up photo in my Member's Gallery of the magazine loading button also shows the typical "flat" checkering that is unique to Erufrt (see IL book, page 82) and is quite different to the DWM checkering on their loading button... Hello Herb, Why not bring your magazine to Reno next month and we can compare, side-by-side... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />