new member needs id on old luger

debo4747 · 02-27-2010, 05:59 PM

hello, i need some help iding an old luger i have aquired from a passed relative.......on the slide it has 4 stamps on it a crown on top with cxs under it , and an eagle with its arms spread out ......serial number on the bottom of barrel is 8090 c 8,83.........on the clip release side reads 90....and gesichert......2 matching clips and a holster as well......please any infor would be great.... on the top where you **** it reads 1915 90 with and looks like cursive dwm on it ......the gun is mint and looks to be never fired , like i said what do i have and any help would be great!!!

Mike B · 02-27-2010, 06:14 PM

Pictures are a must, but from the "1915", your description, and the serial number, I can tell you it is a 1915 military, DWM manufacture. The two matching magazine are a great plus. I hope they are wood bottom????

Mike

debo4747 · 02-27-2010, 06:28 PM

DavidJayUden · 02-27-2010, 06:56 PM

More pictures please! Also photo the ends of the mags. to show their #'s. Looks very nice.
dju

debo4747 · 02-27-2010, 07:01 PM

camera not available but i assure you they both read 8090 on them .... is that rare with 2 clips with the same serial number?

Mike B · 02-27-2010, 07:17 PM

Yes, that is VERY rare, but the word "clip" is somewhat disturbing in the Luger world. Clips are used in M1 rifles. Magazines are used in Lugers as they store ammo. Enough of semantics. You have a very desirable Luger. The condition appears to be great and the two mags make it extremely desirable. Don't let anyone tell you it is worth anything less than major collectable.

Mike

debo4747 · 02-27-2010, 07:42 PM

Thanks mike

debo4747 · 02-27-2010, 07:45 PM

Any idea of value? Ballpark ?

debo4747 · 02-27-2010, 08:22 PM

One more thing guys , if you look at the picture you can see the holster ,,,, next to the magazine holder theres a thin compartment next to it whats that for?

DavidJayUden · 02-27-2010, 11:25 PM

The compartment is probably for the loading tool.
Value is well to the north of $2k, maybe $3500. But I haven't really seen many others to base it on. The other guys may be able to give a more educated estimate. But more pictures will help them in that endeavor too. Any bring back documents with it?
Anyway, it's definitely not a shooter, and don't try to load those mags.
DJU

Norme · 02-28-2010, 08:37 AM

Hi, I would figure the gun with two matching mags about $3,000.00, assuming they are as nice as they appear to be so far. The holster has value also. Photos of both sides, including all marks, inside and out, are a must. Regards, Norm

mak · 02-28-2010, 09:29 AM

What are the marks on the holster? Is there a loading tool in the small pouch inside the flap. Are there any markings indide the flap?

From your description the pistol and accessories are well worth $3K.

Edward Tinker · 02-28-2010, 09:32 AM

need lots more pictures before I would give value, faked magazines are common; and that is what drives the value. Plus it must be all matching; firing pin, grips, hold open etc. If not, then value drops.

Not trying to sound negative, but values from a brief description and one photo is a guessing game.

I personally have had trouble "getting" anything over $2500 for any luger from WW1 era, even with 2 matching magazines.

Ed

02-27-2010, 05:59 PM	#1
debo4747 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	new member needs id on old luger hello, i need some help iding an old luger i have aquired from a passed relative.......on the slide it has 4 stamps on it a crown on top with cxs under it , and an eagle with its arms spread out ......serial number on the bottom of barrel is 8090 c 8,83.........on the clip release side reads 90....and gesichert......2 matching clips and a holster as well......please any infor would be great.... on the top where you **** it reads 1915 90 with and looks like cursive dwm on it ......the gun is mint and looks to be never fired , like i said what do i have and any help would be great!!!

02-28-2010, 09:32 AM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	need lots more pictures before I would give value, faked magazines are common; and that is what drives the value. Plus it must be all matching; firing pin, grips, hold open etc. If not, then value drops. Not trying to sound negative, but values from a brief description and one photo is a guessing game. I personally have had trouble "getting" anything over $2500 for any luger from WW1 era, even with 2 matching magazines. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-27-2010, 06:14 PM	#2
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Pictures are a must, but from the "1915", your description, and the serial number, I can tell you it is a 1915 military, DWM manufacture. The two matching magazine are a great plus. I hope they are wood bottom???? Mike

02-27-2010, 06:28 PM	#3
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02-27-2010, 06:56 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	More pictures please! Also photo the ends of the mags. to show their #'s. Looks very nice. dju

02-27-2010, 07:01 PM	#5
debo4747 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	camera not available but i assure you they both read 8090 on them .... is that rare with 2 clips with the same serial number?

02-27-2010, 07:17 PM	#6
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Yes, that is VERY rare, but the word "clip" is somewhat disturbing in the Luger world. Clips are used in M1 rifles. Magazines are used in Lugers as they store ammo. Enough of semantics. You have a very desirable Luger. The condition appears to be great and the two mags make it extremely desirable. Don't let anyone tell you it is worth anything less than major collectable. Mike

02-27-2010, 07:42 PM	#7
debo4747 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks mike

02-27-2010, 07:45 PM	#8
debo4747 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any idea of value? Ballpark ?

02-27-2010, 08:22 PM	#9
debo4747 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One more thing guys , if you look at the picture you can see the holster ,,,, next to the magazine holder theres a thin compartment next to it whats that for?

02-27-2010, 11:25 PM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The compartment is probably for the loading tool. Value is well to the north of $2k, maybe $3500. But I haven't really seen many others to base it on. The other guys may be able to give a more educated estimate. But more pictures will help them in that endeavor too. Any bring back documents with it? Anyway, it's definitely not a shooter, and don't try to load those mags. DJU

02-28-2010, 08:37 AM	#11
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi, I would figure the gun with two matching mags about $3,000.00, assuming they are as nice as they appear to be so far. The holster has value also. Photos of both sides, including all marks, inside and out, are a must. Regards, Norm

02-28-2010, 09:29 AM	#12
mak User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 22 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What are the marks on the holster? Is there a loading tool in the small pouch inside the flap. Are there any markings indide the flap? From your description the pistol and accessories are well worth $3K.