Luger P08 S/42 1936 "o" block

8x57IS · 07-08-2015, 08:10 PM

Hello,

in the "New Collectors Forum" you could see already three photos of my Luger, because I had a question about a spare magazine.
I write this new post to introduce my first P08, it's a S/42 1936 "o" block. It's all matching, just the magazine has a different serial number, it's 9275 "e"block.

Here are many experts and I'm curious to hear your opinion. What do you think about the condition and the blueing? Maybe you see some interesting details.
If you are interested in a detail and you need a certain photo, please tell me.

I have more experiences with the German K98k rifle, in particular from the company J.P. Sauer & Sohn. About the P08 I have to learn a lot and I'm sure, this forum is the right place. Many thanks!

Best regards,
Stephan

8x57IS · 07-08-2015, 08:12 PM

Some more photos

Norme · 07-08-2015, 08:41 PM

Hi Stephan, Your 1936 S/42 appears to be a nice original except for the strawed parts which look to have been redone. The magazine, as you know, is from a later gun.
Regards, Norm

8x57IS · 07-09-2015, 04:30 PM

Hi Norm,

thank you, maybe the strawed parts are original and it's just because of the lighting? I will attach two more photos, in real it doesn't look redone.

Greetings,
Stephan

Norme · 07-09-2015, 04:56 PM

Hi Stephan, I think you're right, the straw looks OK to me now.
Regards, Norm

Sergio Natali · 07-10-2015, 03:59 AM

Nice gun, probably the light gave to the straw an unnatural shade.
Stephan yours is probably one of the last strawed lugers as they stopped with strawing in mid 1937
Regards.

Sergio

John Sabato · 07-10-2015, 07:53 AM

A very nice example of mid-1937 craftsmanship at Mauser. Congrats on your acquisition.

8x57IS · 07-12-2015, 03:33 PM

Thank you very much to all of you for your comments and opinions.

I thought they stopped with strawing in the end of 1936, again I learned something.

What do you think, when was my 1936 "o" block produced?

Greetings,
Stephan

derf0018 · 07-13-2015, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8x57IS

Thank you very much to all of you for your comments and opinions.

I thought they stopped with strawing in the end of 1936, again I learned something.

What do you think, when was my 1936 "o" block produced?

Greetings,
Stephan

Mauser stopped the rust blue/straw about the q block in 1937.

Fred

guns3545 · 07-13-2015, 01:21 PM

Stephan,

Your o-block pistol was made late in 1936, say November or so. There were only about 85,000 Model P.08s produced by Mauser in 1936, most of them going to the Army. The o-block was next to last block, followed only by the p-block which spilled into 1937.

Late production 1936 P.08s displayed the new S/42 toggle logo. Prior models in 1934 and 1935 displayed an S/42 with the S larger than the 42.

Also 1936 was first year that dates were used on the chamber. Prior Mauser used K and G for 1934 and 1935 respectively; but when Hitler abrogated the Treaty of Versailles in May 1935, all attempts to mislead the Allied Control Commission were abandoned and Germany openly started to rearm itself..

!936 was also the first year that blued bodies for magazines were introduced; around the m-block of production. As previously noted the magazine you show is from later production and is not period correct for the gun.

Otherwise, you have a nice unmolested example of Pre-war Mauser P.08 production.

Hope this helps

John

8x57IS · 07-13-2015, 02:11 PM

John,

that helps a lot, thank you very much for the informations. I just have read somewhere the toggle logo changed and now I know when it happened.

All the information was new for me, just with the "K" and "G" I knew before, it's the same with the K98k rifles.

I have to keep my eyes open to find a period correct magazine.

Again, thank you so much for the help.

Stephan

07-10-2015, 03:59 AM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Nice gun, probably the light gave to the straw an unnatural shade. Stephan yours is probably one of the last strawed lugers as they stopped with strawing in mid 1937 Regards. Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

07-10-2015, 07:53 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	A very nice example of mid-1937 craftsmanship at Mauser. Congrats on your acquisition. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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07-08-2015, 08:41 PM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Stephan, Your 1936 S/42 appears to be a nice original except for the strawed parts which look to have been redone. The magazine, as you know, is from a later gun. Regards, Norm

07-09-2015, 04:56 PM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Stephan, I think you're right, the straw looks OK to me now. Regards, Norm

07-12-2015, 03:33 PM	#8
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you very much to all of you for your comments and opinions. I thought they stopped with strawing in the end of 1936, again I learned something. What do you think, when was my 1936 "o" block produced? Greetings, Stephan

07-13-2015, 01:21 PM	#10
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 438 Thanks: 661 Thanked 493 Times in 219 Posts	Stephan, Your o-block pistol was made late in 1936, say November or so. There were only about 85,000 Model P.08s produced by Mauser in 1936, most of them going to the Army. The o-block was next to last block, followed only by the p-block which spilled into 1937. Late production 1936 P.08s displayed the new S/42 toggle logo. Prior models in 1934 and 1935 displayed an S/42 with the S larger than the 42. Also 1936 was first year that dates were used on the chamber. Prior Mauser used K and G for 1934 and 1935 respectively; but when Hitler abrogated the Treaty of Versailles in May 1935, all attempts to mislead the Allied Control Commission were abandoned and Germany openly started to rearm itself.. !936 was also the first year that blued bodies for magazines were introduced; around the m-block of production. As previously noted the magazine you show is from later production and is not period correct for the gun. Otherwise, you have a nice unmolested example of Pre-war Mauser P.08 production. Hope this helps John

07-13-2015, 02:11 PM	#11
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, that helps a lot, thank you very much for the informations. I just have read somewhere the toggle logo changed and now I know when it happened. All the information was new for me, just with the "K" and "G" I knew before, it's the same with the K98k rifles. I have to keep my eyes open to find a period correct magazine. Again, thank you so much for the help. Stephan