PP Holster

MarkC · 11-22-2004, 09:58 PM

Guys,

This came with a mint AC marked PP that also had two "W" marked mags. The gun is legit but the holster doesn't look right. The Whittington book has nothing similar, what do I have?

I don't want to feature this holster in my collection if not correct and am not that up on the subject.

Mark

John Sabato · 11-23-2004, 09:54 AM

Jerry Burney (lugerhoslterrepair) needs to comment on this holster Mark... While the holster indeed looks "old" it appears to be very crudely made... the stitching looks like by machine instead of hand stitched... and randomly done instead of carefully...

It may be a homemade holster... but of the correct period.

How about some nice closeups of the PP?

Lugerdoc · 11-23-2004, 10:04 AM

Mark, It's difficult to tell for sure from a photo, but your holster appears to be a WW2 "ersatz" (leather covered cardboard) issue. These were made near the end of WW2 in a size that would hold most 7.65 pocket pistols, as a cheaper alternative to the usual all leather types. TH

MarkC · 11-23-2004, 12:23 PM

Tom and John,

Thanks for the input!

The holster has an old smell but looked odd and yes it appears to have wax type cardboard as a liner.

I have other pictures of the gun I will post but didn't want to do a photomerge if the holster was postwar.

What is an ersatz holster worth?

Mark

lugerholsterrepair · 11-23-2004, 12:43 PM

Mark, Tom has a sharp eye and from what I can see he is right on the money. You can look on the edge of the top and see if there are layers. Some of the smaller parts may be made of leather.

As far as I know ersatz holsters are not highly sought after. While they are a curiosity, they pale in comparison to a finely made leather holster and most collectors I know would prefer a leather one, especially with a fine pistol. This is not to say that someone wouldn't pay a lot for it. Put it on eBay and find out. Jerry Burney

MarkC · 11-23-2004, 12:56 PM

Jerry,

Thanks for the information!

I think I'm going to keep the holster with the gun as I think they have been together for some time. I paid $495.00 for the rig so I'm not looking to recoup any cash. The gun is a real nice minty example and I will post some photos soon.

Mark

11-22-2004, 09:58 PM	#1
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	PP Holster Guys, This came with a mint AC marked PP that also had two "W" marked mags. The gun is legit but the holster doesn't look right. The Whittington book has nothing similar, what do I have? I don't want to feature this holster in my collection if not correct and am not that up on the subject. Mark

11-23-2004, 09:54 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Jerry Burney (lugerhoslterrepair) needs to comment on this holster Mark... While the holster indeed looks "old" it appears to be very crudely made... the stitching looks like by machine instead of hand stitched... and randomly done instead of carefully... It may be a homemade holster... but of the correct period. How about some nice closeups of the PP? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-23-2004, 10:04 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mark, It's difficult to tell for sure from a photo, but your holster appears to be a WW2 "ersatz" (leather covered cardboard) issue. These were made near the end of WW2 in a size that would hold most 7.65 pocket pistols, as a cheaper alternative to the usual all leather types. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-23-2004, 12:43 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Mark, Tom has a sharp eye and from what I can see he is right on the money. You can look on the edge of the top and see if there are layers. Some of the smaller parts may be made of leather. As far as I know ersatz holsters are not highly sought after. While they are a curiosity, they pale in comparison to a finely made leather holster and most collectors I know would prefer a leather one, especially with a fine pistol. This is not to say that someone wouldn't pay a lot for it. Put it on eBay and find out. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-23-2004, 12:23 PM	#4
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Tom and John, Thanks for the input! The holster has an old smell but looked odd and yes it appears to have wax type cardboard as a liner. I have other pictures of the gun I will post but didn't want to do a photomerge if the holster was postwar. What is an ersatz holster worth? Mark

11-23-2004, 12:56 PM	#6
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Jerry, Thanks for the information! I think I'm going to keep the holster with the gun as I think they have been together for some time. I paid $495.00 for the rig so I'm not looking to recoup any cash. The gun is a real nice minty example and I will post some photos soon. Mark