Rare 1939!

jamese · 04-10-2003, 08:06 AM

I saw this while checking some adds,Its amazing what some will try to sell as original and then put in a disclaimer as ignorance.

<img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> "Please be aware that I am not an expert on these guns"

http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=8234790

unspellable · 04-10-2003, 08:15 AM

This is the famous DWM re-intro from which Mauser got the idea for their re-intros of the seventies. Only high ranking officers were issued the DWM re-itro.

John Sabato · 04-10-2003, 10:56 AM

You guys should use the little instant Graemlins to indicate your humor

because some poor new person might think you are being serious <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" /> when you are really being sarcastic.

Ron Wood · 04-10-2003, 11:58 AM

In all fairness, the seller did not claim it to be "original" condition, just good to very good and in firing condition. This is one time I am almost willing to accept lack of knowledge on the part of the seller. After collecting for over 45 years, I sometimes forget that not everyone is totally familiar with Lugers. Heck, I even encounter individuals calling a 1911 .45 a "luger".
On the other hand, it would seem that if you have something to sell, you do have a responsibility to do a little research. When asking a lot of money (and to me $995 is a lot), representation should be as accurate as possible.

John Sabato · 04-10-2003, 01:22 PM

It looks like a $400-$500 shooter being hawked for a lot more than it is worth...

but that is just my

Pete Ebbink · 04-10-2003, 01:38 PM

But that is a nice looking Audley holster...wonder if the seller will part this holster away from the gun...?

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

John Sabato · 04-10-2003, 01:53 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> But that is a nice looking Audley holster...wonder if the seller will part this holster away from the gun...?

Pete... <hr /></blockquote>Pete, I don't know what auction you are looking at, but the one from the link in the first post of this message thread doesn't mention or show an Audley holster??? What's Up with that?

Ron Wood · 04-10-2003, 02:05 PM

The Audley holster is in an auction indicated in another thread in "All P08 Military Lugers" headed "Fraud, Deceit or Just Plain Stupidity". The same auction also came up in "General Discussions" under Herb's thread headed "Take a look", where I commented on the Audley being hard to find.

John Sabato · 04-10-2003, 03:44 PM

NOW I understand!

it is a mistake... I make them all the time (or so I am told by my wife)

Pete Ebbink · 04-11-2003, 11:29 AM

My apologies, John S., for getting the threads mixed up...I guess the "1939" lead me astray...

Must be all the home-improvements I have been burning the mid-night oil on...

Thanks, Ron, for taking the time to figure out my mistake...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

04-10-2003, 08:06 AM	#1
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Rare 1939! I saw this while checking some adds,Its amazing what some will try to sell as original and then put in a disclaimer as ignorance. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> "Please be aware that I am not an expert on these guns" http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=8234790 __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

04-10-2003, 10:56 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	You guys should use the little instant Graemlins to indicate your humor because some poor new person might think you are being serious <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" /> when you are really being sarcastic. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-10-2003, 11:58 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,989 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	In all fairness, the seller did not claim it to be "original" condition, just good to very good and in firing condition. This is one time I am almost willing to accept lack of knowledge on the part of the seller. After collecting for over 45 years, I sometimes forget that not everyone is totally familiar with Lugers. Heck, I even encounter individuals calling a 1911 .45 a "luger". On the other hand, it would seem that if you have something to sell, you do have a responsibility to do a little research. When asking a lot of money (and to me $995 is a lot), representation should be as accurate as possible. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-10-2003, 01:22 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	It looks like a $400-$500 shooter being hawked for a lot more than it is worth... but that is just my __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-10-2003, 01:53 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> But that is a nice looking Audley holster...wonder if the seller will part this holster away from the gun...? Pete... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Pete, I don't know what auction you are looking at, but the one from the link in the first post of this message thread doesn't mention or show an Audley holster??? What's Up with that? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-10-2003, 08:15 AM	#2
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	This is the famous DWM re-intro from which Mauser got the idea for their re-intros of the seventies. Only high ranking officers were issued the DWM re-itro.

04-10-2003, 01:38 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	But that is a nice looking Audley holster...wonder if the seller will part this holster away from the gun...? Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

04-10-2003, 02:05 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,989 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	The Audley holster is in an auction indicated in another thread in "All P08 Military Lugers" headed "Fraud, Deceit or Just Plain Stupidity". The same auction also came up in "General Discussions" under Herb's thread headed "Take a look", where I commented on the Audley being hard to find. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-10-2003, 03:44 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	NOW I understand! it is a mistake... I make them all the time (or so I am told by my wife) __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-11-2003, 11:29 AM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	My apologies, John S., for getting the threads mixed up...I guess the "1939" lead me astray... Must be all the home-improvements I have been burning the mid-night oil on... Thanks, Ron, for taking the time to figure out my mistake... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />