A Luger Video...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 09-17-2004, 12:46 AM

I found this Luger video on the Internet. High speed video of the gun firing, so you can see it in slow motion. Take notice of the small jet of gas from the extractor area. I wonder if happens before the case sealed up the chamber...

http://www.kurzzeit.com/video.zip

John Sabato · 09-17-2004, 09:53 AM

This is a GREAT slow motion video of the Luger firing sequence... too bad they didn't show the whole gun... but still a GREAT video clip showing the firing and reloading cycle.

Thanks Johnny for sharing that...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 09-17-2004, 11:33 PM

Yes, it would have been nice to see the whole gun. The bullet might have been visible as well. I now know what causes that mark on the cartridge case near the mouth, that I see all the time. The case hits the extractor as you can see in the video, when it spins around. The toggle bouncing slightly after returning shows the energies at play as well...

John Sabato · 09-20-2004, 11:35 AM

If you enjoyed this video... shorten the URL to just the main section:

http://www.kurzzeit.com

There are many other slow motion videos of firearms mechanisms available there that I found very interesting to watch...

Vlim · 09-21-2004, 10:18 AM

I really like this video.

Always considered the incorporation of a bounce-lock as a bit of stupid idea. But after seeing this video I start to understand why both Borchardt and Luger decided to keep it (for a while at least).

Thor · 09-21-2004, 10:51 AM

With gas going back into the extractor area, it is no wonder that many breechblocks are ruined when the firing pin guide is pushed back. I had no idea gas made it back to the extractor in normal firing. Almost looks like a very delayed puff of gas comes out of the front toggle pin area, the toggle pin that connects the front link to the breechblock. I wish I could see this one frame at a time but my software doesnt have a single frame feature. Very interesting when you think the entire cycle is accomplished in 1/60th of a second or less (The History Channel-Tales of the Gun-The Luger documentary) Doesnt leave much time for the next round to get in the required alignement to be pushed up the feed ramp, hence the need for a very strong magazine spring to prevent feeding failures. Notice the breech moves immediately forward after the reciever stop bounces off the frame and the whole assembly is propelled forward. A very interesting video for sure.

Johnny C. Kitchens · 09-21-2004, 08:46 PM

Thor, get Irfanview. It is free and it can allow you to use it for all images and videos. It can even make changes to images. My favorite feature, is that it allows you to view images using the full screen!!!

Go to

http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at/

You will quickly stop using that other stuff to look at images and videos after using this...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 09-26-2004, 01:22 PM

If you liked the Luger video, then take a look at their C-96 video. It appears to be a full auto version, though it fires only two shots...

http://www.kurzzeit.com/c96.zip

09-17-2004, 12:46 AM	#1
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	A Luger Video... I found this Luger video on the Internet. High speed video of the gun firing, so you can see it in slow motion. Take notice of the small jet of gas from the extractor area. I wonder if happens before the case sealed up the chamber... http://www.kurzzeit.com/video.zip __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

09-17-2004, 09:53 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	This is a GREAT slow motion video of the Luger firing sequence... too bad they didn't show the whole gun... but still a GREAT video clip showing the firing and reloading cycle. Thanks Johnny for sharing that... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-17-2004, 11:33 PM	#3
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Yes, it would have been nice to see the whole gun. The bullet might have been visible as well. I now know what causes that mark on the cartridge case near the mouth, that I see all the time. The case hits the extractor as you can see in the video, when it spins around. The toggle bouncing slightly after returning shows the energies at play as well... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

09-20-2004, 11:35 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	If you enjoyed this video... shorten the URL to just the main section: http://www.kurzzeit.com There are many other slow motion videos of firearms mechanisms available there that I found very interesting to watch... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-21-2004, 10:51 AM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	With gas going back into the extractor area, it is no wonder that many breechblocks are ruined when the firing pin guide is pushed back. I had no idea gas made it back to the extractor in normal firing. Almost looks like a very delayed puff of gas comes out of the front toggle pin area, the toggle pin that connects the front link to the breechblock. I wish I could see this one frame at a time but my software doesnt have a single frame feature. Very interesting when you think the entire cycle is accomplished in 1/60th of a second or less (The History Channel-Tales of the Gun-The Luger documentary) Doesnt leave much time for the next round to get in the required alignement to be pushed up the feed ramp, hence the need for a very strong magazine spring to prevent feeding failures. Notice the breech moves immediately forward after the reciever stop bounces off the frame and the whole assembly is propelled forward. A very interesting video for sure. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-21-2004, 10:18 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	I really like this video. Always considered the incorporation of a bounce-lock as a bit of stupid idea. But after seeing this video I start to understand why both Borchardt and Luger decided to keep it (for a while at least).

09-21-2004, 08:46 PM	#7
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Thor, get Irfanview. It is free and it can allow you to use it for all images and videos. It can even make changes to images. My favorite feature, is that it allows you to view images using the full screen!!! Go to http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at/ You will quickly stop using that other stuff to look at images and videos after using this... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

09-26-2004, 01:22 PM	#8
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	If you liked the Luger video, then take a look at their C-96 video. It appears to be a full auto version, though it fires only two shots... http://www.kurzzeit.com/c96.zip __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens