Need Help with Mag ID

Luke · 10-03-2003, 07:18 AM

Just bought an Imperial Luger with an excellent magazine, but the wood bottom has been notched and has an unusual suffix. The suffix appears to be an upper case "T" but I thought only lower case was used for this purpose. Can anyone identify?

Thanks,
Luke

Navy · 10-03-2003, 09:34 AM

Hi Luke,
I am on the road and thus away from my reference materials, but I believe the mark to be a sutterlin (Sp?) character. I thought there was a depiction of these somewhere on the forum, but I can't seem to find it.

Tom A.

Frank · 10-03-2003, 09:42 AM

Hi Luke, if you look carefully, there is a nonsymmetry between the right and left sides of the top cross. Could it possibly be a heavy strike and consequent wear of the letter "r"?? According to Jan Still (Page 15 Imperial Lugers) 1917 and 1918, both Erfurt and DWM produced pistols at least into the R-Block and some higher. My guess, since it doesn't have the Erfurt stamp, is that it's a DWM.

Lugerdoc · 10-03-2003, 10:14 AM

Luke, I agree with Frank, that your repaired DWM military mag bottom has a strongly struck "r" suffix, that shows the top edge of the die. Perhaps, that's why the bottom eventually cracked. TH

Luke · 10-03-2003, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the information. The character is deeply struck.

After looking at it under high magnification and looking at the "r" on posted on the board, I suspect that it is, indeed, a lower case "r" which is somewhat distorted by the depth of the strike.

Luke

10-03-2003, 07:18 AM	#1
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Need Help with Mag ID Just bought an Imperial Luger with an excellent magazine, but the wood bottom has been notched and has an unusual suffix. The suffix appears to be an upper case "T" but I thought only lower case was used for this purpose. Can anyone identify? Thanks, Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

10-03-2003, 10:14 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Luke, I agree with Frank, that your repaired DWM military mag bottom has a strongly struck "r" suffix, that shows the top edge of the die. Perhaps, that's why the bottom eventually cracked. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-03-2003, 10:50 AM	#5
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Thanks for the information. The character is deeply struck. After looking at it under high magnification and looking at the "r" on posted on the board, I suspect that it is, indeed, a lower case "r" which is somewhat distorted by the depth of the strike. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

10-03-2003, 09:34 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Luke, I am on the road and thus away from my reference materials, but I believe the mark to be a sutterlin (Sp?) character. I thought there was a depiction of these somewhere on the forum, but I can't seem to find it. Tom A.

10-03-2003, 09:42 AM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Luke, if you look carefully, there is a nonsymmetry between the right and left sides of the top cross. Could it possibly be a heavy strike and consequent wear of the letter "r"?? According to Jan Still (Page 15 Imperial Lugers) 1917 and 1918, both Erfurt and DWM produced pistols at least into the R-Block and some higher. My guess, since it doesn't have the Erfurt stamp, is that it's a DWM.