Odd Marking Question

Dwight Gruber · 05-16-2004, 03:18 AM

I recently picked up a 1911 Erfurt (profiled earlier in this Forum) with strange marks on the sideplate and right receiver.

As I was examining my Vickers this morning, I looked at a strange marking under the barrel, which I had noted before, and suddenly realized that it was the same mark as the Erfurt sideplate. There is a Vickers illustrated on page 135 of "The Dutch Luger" by Martens and de Vries with the same marking.

Neither Costanzo nor Martens & de Vries mention this mark.

I'd really like to know if anybody can identify this mark.

--Dwight

Lugerdoc · 05-16-2004, 08:19 AM

Mark, I guess that I should just say that I don't know what the "infinity symbol" marking is, as I've never run into this before. I doubt that it's an official German marking, so my best WAG would be, possibly a Dutch inspector's rework mark or that of a later gunsmith. Th

Vlim · 05-16-2004, 01:10 PM

Hi,

Neither 'The Dutch Luger' nor the British proof mark references I have show this mark.

I have seen it before and it may well be of Belgian origin.

Belgians had access to WW1 weapons as well as to the Dutch Vickers contract lugers, that were reworked by FN prior to shipment to the Dutch colonies.

Dwight Gruber · 05-16-2004, 01:49 PM

Gerben,

Where have you seen it before??

--Dwight

Vlim · 05-17-2004, 09:21 AM

Dwight,

That's the problem, I can't remember....But it had something to do with inspector's codes. Will fiddle through my documentation once again.

05-16-2004, 03:18 AM	#1
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Odd Marking Question I recently picked up a 1911 Erfurt (profiled earlier in this Forum) with strange marks on the sideplate and right receiver. As I was examining my Vickers this morning, I looked at a strange marking under the barrel, which I had noted before, and suddenly realized that it was the same mark as the Erfurt sideplate. There is a Vickers illustrated on page 135 of "The Dutch Luger" by Martens and de Vries with the same marking. Neither Costanzo nor Martens & de Vries mention this mark. I'd really like to know if anybody can identify this mark. --Dwight

05-16-2004, 08:19 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mark, I guess that I should just say that I don't know what the "infinity symbol" marking is, as I've never run into this before. I doubt that it's an official German marking, so my best WAG would be, possibly a Dutch inspector's rework mark or that of a later gunsmith. Th __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-16-2004, 01:10 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,987 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, Neither 'The Dutch Luger' nor the British proof mark references I have show this mark. I have seen it before and it may well be of Belgian origin. Belgians had access to WW1 weapons as well as to the Dutch Vickers contract lugers, that were reworked by FN prior to shipment to the Dutch colonies.

05-16-2004, 01:49 PM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Gerben, Where have you seen it before?? --Dwight

05-17-2004, 09:21 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,987 Times in 1,205 Posts	Dwight, That's the problem, I can't remember....But it had something to do with inspector's codes. Will fiddle through my documentation once again.