Real or Reproduction Stock

RichD · 09-03-2017, 10:18 AM

Really need to know if stock is original or reproduction, I have had it for 20 yrs and still do not know, can anyone help. Thanks

DavidJayUden · 09-03-2017, 03:09 PM

This is one for Jerry Burney. It may help to remove one of the 2 screws thru the tangs. Seems like there was some characteristic of those that indicated old or new mfg.
dju

DonVoigt · 09-03-2017, 03:18 PM

It is tough to be certain from a picture; but it looks like an original stock to me.
But the numbers are not likely original- or at least not issue German numbers from WWI.

George Anderson · 09-03-2017, 04:57 PM

It appears to be a stock for a 1936 "Siamese" contract artillery Luger. They were numbered in the wood as this one is as well as the same year "Persian" contract artilleries, only the latter were numbered in Farsi characters. The numbering on the stock iron seems to be someones attempt to match a gun as it's not correct in orientation and was stamped through the bluing.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-04-2017, 01:13 PM

The wood to metal fit is certainly good and the oval strap slots are not chamfered..two indicators I look at first. George has seen many more of these than I have..it's no repro in the modern made sense for sure.

ithacaartist · 09-04-2017, 01:57 PM

The pilot holes for the closure strap help support this diagnosis , too. If they didn't form a precise square, though, it would definitely have been bogus.

09-03-2017, 10:18 AM	#1
RichD New User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Real or Reproduction Stock Really need to know if stock is original or reproduction, I have had it for 20 yrs and still do not know, can anyone help. Thanks Attached Thumbnails

09-03-2017, 03:18 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	It is tough to be certain from a picture; but it looks like an original stock to me. But the numbers are not likely original- or at least not issue German numbers from WWI. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

09-04-2017, 01:13 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,868 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	The wood to metal fit is certainly good and the oval strap slots are not chamfered..two indicators I look at first. George has seen many more of these than I have..it's no repro in the modern made sense for sure. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-04-2017, 01:57 PM	#6
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,292 Thanks: 7,060 Thanked 2,485 Times in 1,325 Posts	The pilot holes for the closure strap help support this diagnosis , too. If they didn't form a precise square, though, it would definitely have been bogus. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

09-03-2017, 03:09 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	This is one for Jerry Burney. It may help to remove one of the 2 screws thru the tangs. Seems like there was some characteristic of those that indicated old or new mfg. dju

09-03-2017, 04:57 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	It appears to be a stock for a 1936 "Siamese" contract artillery Luger. They were numbered in the wood as this one is as well as the same year "Persian" contract artilleries, only the latter were numbered in Farsi characters. The numbering on the stock iron seems to be someones attempt to match a gun as it's not correct in orientation and was stamped through the bluing.