P08 grips with a border

Chickenthief · 03-17-2017, 03:57 PM

Maybe my Google woo-doo is'nt up to snuff but i have looked at hundreds of P08 grips and havent found any with a border like the old Borchardt Lugers.

Like this but no cut for grip safety.

Eugen · 03-17-2017, 04:08 PM

I like that style as well. I have a similar set of grips on a shooter. I am not sure who makes or sells them.

sheepherder · 03-17-2017, 04:46 PM

Jim Solomon has done several sets with borders; Hugh Clark has done them also but IIRC Hugh is semi-retired...

DonVoigt · 03-17-2017, 06:58 PM

I don't think those are "original" to the old model; but I kind of like border grips- to a point.

Jim did both of these for me

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A border on the baby grips; but I though a little too much border if the grips and fore arm both had borders- so only a border on the fore arm on the carbine.

Jim does great work for sure.

wlyon · 03-17-2017, 08:43 PM

Very nice work. We luger collectors are very fortunate to have several outstanding craftsmen to help us. I won't try and name them since I would probably miss someone. But we all know who they are. Never pass up a chance to tell them how much you appreciate there talent. Bill

Edward Tinker · 03-17-2017, 10:01 PM

I've had folks say that is the 'swiss' style

no idea if it is, but I have had a set or two and like them

ithacaartist · 03-18-2017, 02:33 AM

I can see why they might be referred to as Swiss.

http://www.landofborchardt.com/swiss.html

Chickenthief · 03-18-2017, 06:22 AM

Unfortunatly the Swiss opted for all checkered no border.

Vlim · 03-18-2017, 07:28 AM

The East Germans revived the design with their VoPo grips.

Spuhr · 03-26-2017, 03:38 PM

Nill have made bordercheckering to

Zorba · 03-26-2017, 08:24 PM

Jim Solomon made these for me, I too like the bordered grip style:

mrerick · 03-27-2017, 08:44 AM

When the Swiss W+F armory began making their own Lugers in Switzerland in 1918, they used this bordered style of grips.

The much less expensive (to make) plastic canevasit orange/red grips were introduced on the M1929 Luger they made, followed by more robust ones in brown and other color plastic that are not as prone to breaking.

Here's my W+F Swiss Luger sporting it's original grips. Notice there is no border along the top or bottom of the grip, only on the sides.

DonVoigt · 03-27-2017, 11:59 AM

Thanks Marc,
classic Swiss With borders!

ithacaartist · 03-27-2017, 12:23 PM

I have a couple pairs of grips like this and noticed that they are basically flat with radius-ed edges where the border is. This makes the grip scale a good candidate for machines to do all the checkering, which saves lots of hand labor, thus $. They seem a bit thicker than P.08 grips.

John Sabato · 03-27-2017, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

When the Swiss W+F armory began making their own Lugers in Switzerland in 1918, they used this bordered style of grips.

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Here's my W+F Swiss Luger sporting it's original grips. Notice there is no border along the top or bottom of the grip, only on the sides.

For those interested, the Swiss blueprints for these grips are included as bonus drawings in the P.08 Blueprint CD that I sell... Send me a PM if you wish to buy the set...

03-17-2017, 03:57 PM	#1
Chickenthief User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Denmark Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 131 Times in 48 Posts	P08 grips with a border Maybe my Google woo-doo is'nt up to snuff but i have looked at hundreds of P08 grips and havent found any with a border like the old Borchardt Lugers. Like this but no cut for grip safety. Attached Images

03-17-2017, 04:08 PM	#2
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 793 Thanks: 400 Thanked 634 Times in 336 Posts	I like that style as well. I have a similar set of grips on a shooter. I am not sure who makes or sells them. Attached Thumbnails __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

03-17-2017, 04:46 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Jim Solomon has done several sets with borders; Hugh Clark has done them also but IIRC Hugh is semi-retired... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

03-17-2017, 06:58 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,354 Times in 2,041 Posts	I don't think those are "original" to the old model; but I kind of like border grips- to a point. Jim did both of these for me. A border on the baby grips; but I though a little too much border if the grips and fore arm both had borders- so only a border on the fore arm on the carbine. Jim does great work for sure. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-17-2017, 08:43 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,652 Thanks: 3,209 Thanked 2,610 Times in 969 Posts	Very nice work. We luger collectors are very fortunate to have several outstanding craftsmen to help us. I won't try and name them since I would probably miss someone. But we all know who they are. Never pass up a chance to tell them how much you appreciate there talent. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-17-2017, 10:01 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	I've had folks say that is the 'swiss' style no idea if it is, but I have had a set or two and like them

03-18-2017, 02:33 AM	#7
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 7,430 Thanked 2,610 Times in 1,378 Posts	I can see why they might be referred to as Swiss. http://www.landofborchardt.com/swiss.html Attached Thumbnails __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-18-2017, 06:22 AM	#8
Chickenthief User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Denmark Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 131 Times in 48 Posts	Unfortunatly the Swiss opted for all checkered no border.

03-18-2017, 07:28 AM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	The East Germans revived the design with their VoPo grips. Attached Thumbnails

03-26-2017, 03:38 PM	#10
Spuhr User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 193 Times in 24 Posts	Nill have made bordercheckering to

03-26-2017, 08:24 PM	#11
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	Jim Solomon made these for me, I too like the bordered grip style: Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2017, 08:44 AM	#12
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	When the Swiss W+F armory began making their own Lugers in Switzerland in 1918, they used this bordered style of grips. The much less expensive (to make) plastic canevasit orange/red grips were introduced on the M1929 Luger they made, followed by more robust ones in brown and other color plastic that are not as prone to breaking. Here's my W+F Swiss Luger sporting it's original grips. Notice there is no border along the top or bottom of the grip, only on the sides. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-27-2017, 11:59 AM	#13
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,354 Times in 2,041 Posts	Thanks Marc, classic Swiss With borders! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-27-2017, 12:23 PM	#14
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 7,430 Thanked 2,610 Times in 1,378 Posts	I have a couple pairs of grips like this and noticed that they are basically flat with radius-ed edges where the border is. This makes the grip scale a good candidate for machines to do all the checkering, which saves lots of hand labor, thus $. They seem a bit thicker than P.08 grips. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894