Weimer Police Gun

MarkC · 03-08-2016, 07:22 PM

Hi Guys!

I don't post here much but perhaps you can help me out.

This is what I think may be a Weimer Police Luger from my dad's collection. Dad is elderly and has the onset of Alzheimer's Disease so mom requested I take all of his C&R guns and Antique firearms out of the house, she doesn't like guns.

My brother and I are splitting up his guns and he received a very nice 1938 all matched Luger with a capture paper and I inherited this one.

That aside, what do you guys think about this Luger? I talked to Ed Tinker about it but pictures are worth more than a conversation.

I'd appreciate any information that this forum may give me about this gun since I am not a Luger expert.

Let me know if you have questions. It is obviously an Erfurt frame and parts with a freshly numbered DWM toggle to match.

Mark

P.S. The tag on the gun indicated he paid $50.00 for it "back in the day"

alvin · 03-08-2016, 10:36 PM

Nice pancho style pictures -- focuses on key areas, very useful.

Curious,,, are you builder of panchogun.com site?

John Sabato · 03-09-2016, 06:37 AM

Sorry to hear about your Dad's health Mark... Great photos as always... I know you will take good care of your Dad's treasures. Nice Luger...

alvin · 03-09-2016, 07:30 AM

If you or your brother want to sell the guns, consider consign them to juliaauctions.com in Fairfield Maine, not far away from Boston (about 220 miles, Exit 133 of Rt 95 easily accessible). They are one of the top auction houses in C&R domain, even collectors from Europe consigned guns to them for selling. They have a branch office in Woburn MA, not sure its function, probably C&R can be consigned there... Another big name in the domain is rockislandauction.com in midwest.

MarkC · 03-09-2016, 10:03 AM

Thanks guys!

I've done pretty well on Gunbroker when I've decided to sell stuff. We haven't decided what to do with the collection, I need to go through all the firearms to determine what they are and the value.

As some of you may know I have an extensive collection of Axis Pistols so I am going through the easy stuff first

Not a real Luger expert which is why I posted here.

A link to my collection, some of you know me as a moderator at John D's P38 Forum.

www.p38guns.com

Mark

alvin · 03-09-2016, 11:54 AM

Big item, for example, that Walther without exposed hammer in page header, probably should go auction houses so more people could see it and bid on it. It's probably too big for gunbroker.com transaction. That's just a generic feeling on various transaction channels.

MarkC · 03-09-2016, 12:17 PM

I agree but I'm not planning to sell my collection until I retire. The high end stuff may go to RIA the rest gunshows and gunbroker.

Mark

Mac Cat · 03-09-2016, 02:44 PM

Nice photos!
A top view and front frame view would be good additions!

Lugerdoc · 03-09-2016, 05:37 PM

Mark, Is your DWM toggle assy matching to the rest of the luger. Unusual as the test fire eagles on the barrel & receiver and inspector marked ejector are all Erfurt. TH

Edward Tinker · 03-09-2016, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Mark, Is your DWM toggle assy matching to the rest of the luger. Unusual as the test fire eagles on the barrel & receiver and inspector marked ejector are all Erfurt. TH

Tom, it is marked that way -this is like those Simson toggles you see on erfurt and DWM frames - the toggle was replaced after WW1.

It is a police rebuild, a real one.

Ed

MarkC · 03-09-2016, 08:21 PM

Thanks for the clarification Ed!

John Sabato · 03-10-2016, 09:05 AM

Mark I also think that you need to add the serial number photo of the front of the frame to complete your presentation... Please!

DavidJayUden · 03-10-2016, 10:13 AM

With all the talk of auction houses and on-line auctions, don't forget to float for sale items here first. It costs nothing.
dju

DonVoigt · 03-10-2016, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

With all the talk of auction houses and on-line auctions, don't forget to float for sale items here first. It costs nothing.
dju

The OP didn't say anything about selling, that came out of left field from Alvin. In fact the OP said in a later post he had not intention of selling right now and knew how to do it when he did!

But you are correct, perhaps he will offer any items here that are related.

MarkC · 03-10-2016, 02:19 PM

Thanks guys!

I will post a better photo of the serial number tonight.

Also, just to clarify, my brother and I are not looking to sell my Dad's guns.

I sell items on Gunbroker from time to time as I upgrade my collection and usually offer them on the P38forum first. I wasn't sure how much of following P.38's have here but will post things for sale as they come up.

Mark

Mark

MarkC · 03-16-2016, 06:15 PM

I have finally got around to a photo of the serial number.

Is it a "b" or an "s" or something else?

Mark

ithacaartist · 03-16-2016, 10:38 PM

My vote is for "s". Check around on the site and you will find renditions of entire suffix alphabets.

John Sabato · 03-17-2016, 08:23 AM

IMHO, definitely an "s"

DonVoigt · 03-17-2016, 08:36 AM

Lower case, script "S".

MarkC · 03-17-2016, 09:18 AM

Thanks guys!

03-08-2016, 07:22 PM	#1
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Weimer Police Gun Hi Guys! I don't post here much but perhaps you can help me out. This is what I think may be a Weimer Police Luger from my dad's collection. Dad is elderly and has the onset of Alzheimer's Disease so mom requested I take all of his C&R guns and Antique firearms out of the house, she doesn't like guns. My brother and I are splitting up his guns and he received a very nice 1938 all matched Luger with a capture paper and I inherited this one. That aside, what do you guys think about this Luger? I talked to Ed Tinker about it but pictures are worth more than a conversation. I'd appreciate any information that this forum may give me about this gun since I am not a Luger expert. Let me know if you have questions. It is obviously an Erfurt frame and parts with a freshly numbered DWM toggle to match. Mark P.S. The tag on the gun indicated he paid $50.00 for it "back in the day" Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2016, 06:37 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Sorry to hear about your Dad's health Mark... Great photos as always... I know you will take good care of your Dad's treasures. Nice Luger... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-09-2016, 05:37 PM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mark, Is your DWM toggle assy matching to the rest of the luger. Unusual as the test fire eagles on the barrel & receiver and inspector marked ejector are all Erfurt. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-10-2016, 09:05 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Mark I also think that you need to add the serial number photo of the front of the frame to complete your presentation... Please! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-16-2016, 06:15 PM	#16
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	I have finally got around to a photo of the serial number. Is it a "b" or an "s" or something else? Mark Attached Thumbnails

03-08-2016, 10:36 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Nice pancho style pictures -- focuses on key areas, very useful. Curious,,, are you builder of panchogun.com site?

03-09-2016, 07:30 AM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	If you or your brother want to sell the guns, consider consign them to juliaauctions.com in Fairfield Maine, not far away from Boston (about 220 miles, Exit 133 of Rt 95 easily accessible). They are one of the top auction houses in C&R domain, even collectors from Europe consigned guns to them for selling. They have a branch office in Woburn MA, not sure its function, probably C&R can be consigned there... Another big name in the domain is rockislandauction.com in midwest.

03-09-2016, 10:03 AM	#5
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Thanks guys! I've done pretty well on Gunbroker when I've decided to sell stuff. We haven't decided what to do with the collection, I need to go through all the firearms to determine what they are and the value. As some of you may know I have an extensive collection of Axis Pistols so I am going through the easy stuff first Not a real Luger expert which is why I posted here. A link to my collection, some of you know me as a moderator at John D's P38 Forum. www.p38guns.com Mark

03-09-2016, 11:54 AM	#6
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Big item, for example, that Walther without exposed hammer in page header, probably should go auction houses so more people could see it and bid on it. It's probably too big for gunbroker.com transaction. That's just a generic feeling on various transaction channels.

03-09-2016, 12:17 PM	#7
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	I agree but I'm not planning to sell my collection until I retire. The high end stuff may go to RIA the rest gunshows and gunbroker. Mark

03-09-2016, 02:44 PM	#8
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 675 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 545 Times in 294 Posts	Nice photos! A top view and front frame view would be good additions!

03-09-2016, 08:21 PM	#11
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Thanks for the clarification Ed!

03-10-2016, 10:13 AM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	With all the talk of auction houses and on-line auctions, don't forget to float for sale items here first. It costs nothing. dju

03-10-2016, 02:19 PM	#15
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Thanks guys! I will post a better photo of the serial number tonight. Also, just to clarify, my brother and I are not looking to sell my Dad's guns. I sell items on Gunbroker from time to time as I upgrade my collection and usually offer them on the P38forum first. I wasn't sure how much of following P.38's have here but will post things for sale as they come up. Mark Mark

03-16-2016, 10:38 PM	#17
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 7,035 Thanked 2,482 Times in 1,323 Posts	My vote is for "s". Check around on the site and you will find renditions of entire suffix alphabets. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-17-2016, 08:23 AM	#18
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	IMHO, definitely an "s" __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-17-2016, 08:36 AM	#19
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,440 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Lower case, script "S". __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-17-2016, 09:18 AM	#20
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Thanks guys!