Extractor - 1937 S/42

ErikXIV · 05-07-2013, 07:33 AM

Hello Forum,

The extractor in my 1937 S/42 has a little "chip" missing on the right hand side. How serious (or not) is this situation? I was planning to shoot this gun in competitions (maybe 5 - 6) during this summer. Should I cancel those plans?

Its a numbered original part on a completely number correct pistol... Anyone have a spare extractor numbered 51 for sale?!

I apologize for LQ iPhone pics taken thru magnifier glass, thats all I got.

Best regards,
/Erik

mrerick · 05-07-2013, 09:14 AM

I would never shoot an all matching collectable pistol, but that is just me...

The extractor is one of the parts known for more frequent failure.

It also looks like there are some chips off of the tip of your firing pin.

Finally, I've never seen the bottom of the breech block drilled out that way. I suppose it is in an effort to prevent blown out primers from doing damage, but I'm not sure of what other impact that would have on the firing cycle.

The extractor is a precision shaped part. It's likely that the broken area will expand with usage.

Marc

alanint · 05-07-2013, 10:23 AM

I also agree that the firing pin and the breechblock , (the hole) have been messed with.

Simply buy a new extractor, any number, to compete with, if this is your plan.

ErikXIV · 05-07-2013, 11:34 AM

Thanks for replies, so the hole should not be there? Does anybody have a pic showing what is should look like?

Vlim · 05-07-2013, 11:40 AM

It is a protection against pierced primers. The pressure can escape through that little hole, preventing more damage.

You see it quite often on pistols that served in Finland, if I remember correctly.

ErikXIV · 05-07-2013, 11:58 AM

alanint, In what way do you mean the firing pin and breechblock is "messed with"? Im not sure I follow... Was this hole something that the gun was originally delivered with out of the factory, or was it a modification for the finnish market, or is it something made by an evil troll once it got to Finland?!

mrerick · 05-07-2013, 12:33 PM

When the factory shipped the breech block, there was no hole drilled in it's bottom flat surface area.

I think that Doug agreed with me that the firing pin has been damaged at the tip. Either damaged, or someone modified it for some reason.

Marc

rhuff · 05-07-2013, 04:13 PM

If that Luger were mine, and I was going to shoot it in competition, as you say that you plan to do, I would at least purchase another extractor(numbered or reproduction), and a fluted firing pin(numbered or reproduction) to use in this Luger. I might just find another complete toggle train and switch it out for the original. The parts most likely to break with shooting are in the toggle train.

I have broken two extractors(not numbered to my Luger) due to shooting it. I also replaced my numbered breecblock with a reproduction breechblock and a fluted firing pin.

These guns are old, and parts break......kinda like old humans!!

ErikXIV · 05-07-2013, 05:42 PM

Hello people,

Listening to all of you I decided to order some replacement parts: extractor, firing pin, firing pin spring(?), main spring, hold-open latch w spring, sear spring. Please let me know if you think I missed something, thanks again for your opinions.

Best regards,
/Erik

rhuff · 05-08-2013, 03:57 PM

You might also want to pick up a couple of new Mec-Gar mags for your Luger.

ErikXIV · 05-09-2013, 06:56 PM

Rhuff, alteady got the Mec-Gar mags!👍

05-07-2013, 07:33 AM	#1
ErikXIV User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Falun, Dalarna, Sweden Posts: 31 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Extractor - 1937 S/42 Hello Forum, The extractor in my 1937 S/42 has a little "chip" missing on the right hand side. How serious (or not) is this situation? I was planning to shoot this gun in competitions (maybe 5 - 6) during this summer. Should I cancel those plans? Its a numbered original part on a completely number correct pistol... Anyone have a spare extractor numbered 51 for sale?! I apologize for LQ iPhone pics taken thru magnifier glass, thats all I got. Best regards, /Erik Attached Images

05-07-2013, 09:14 AM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	I would never shoot an all matching collectable pistol, but that is just me... The extractor is one of the parts known for more frequent failure. It also looks like there are some chips off of the tip of your firing pin. Finally, I've never seen the bottom of the breech block drilled out that way. I suppose it is in an effort to prevent blown out primers from doing damage, but I'm not sure of what other impact that would have on the firing cycle. The extractor is a precision shaped part. It's likely that the broken area will expand with usage. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-07-2013, 12:33 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	When the factory shipped the breech block, there was no hole drilled in it's bottom flat surface area. I think that Doug agreed with me that the firing pin has been damaged at the tip. Either damaged, or someone modified it for some reason. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-07-2013, 10:23 AM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	I also agree that the firing pin and the breechblock , (the hole) have been messed with. Simply buy a new extractor, any number, to compete with, if this is your plan.

05-07-2013, 11:34 AM	#4
ErikXIV User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Falun, Dalarna, Sweden Posts: 31 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for replies, so the hole should not be there? Does anybody have a pic showing what is should look like?

05-07-2013, 11:40 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	It is a protection against pierced primers. The pressure can escape through that little hole, preventing more damage. You see it quite often on pistols that served in Finland, if I remember correctly.

05-07-2013, 11:58 AM	#6
ErikXIV User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Falun, Dalarna, Sweden Posts: 31 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	alanint, In what way do you mean the firing pin and breechblock is "messed with"? Im not sure I follow... Was this hole something that the gun was originally delivered with out of the factory, or was it a modification for the finnish market, or is it something made by an evil troll once it got to Finland?!

05-07-2013, 04:13 PM	#8
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,305 Thanks: 2,735 Thanked 991 Times in 727 Posts	If that Luger were mine, and I was going to shoot it in competition, as you say that you plan to do, I would at least purchase another extractor(numbered or reproduction), and a fluted firing pin(numbered or reproduction) to use in this Luger. I might just find another complete toggle train and switch it out for the original. The parts most likely to break with shooting are in the toggle train. I have broken two extractors(not numbered to my Luger) due to shooting it. I also replaced my numbered breecblock with a reproduction breechblock and a fluted firing pin. These guns are old, and parts break......kinda like old humans!!

05-07-2013, 05:42 PM	#9
ErikXIV User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Falun, Dalarna, Sweden Posts: 31 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hello people, Listening to all of you I decided to order some replacement parts: extractor, firing pin, firing pin spring(?), main spring, hold-open latch w spring, sear spring. Please let me know if you think I missed something, thanks again for your opinions. Best regards, /Erik

05-08-2013, 03:57 PM	#10
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,305 Thanks: 2,735 Thanked 991 Times in 727 Posts	You might also want to pick up a couple of new Mec-Gar mags for your Luger.

05-09-2013, 06:56 PM	#11
ErikXIV User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Falun, Dalarna, Sweden Posts: 31 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rhuff, alteady got the Mec-Gar mags!👍