Help grandfathers Luger

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 07:50 PM

Gramps had this before the war. Kept it Ina desk drawer for security during the war. Any ideas about what it is?

lugerholsterrepair · 01-06-2013, 08:03 PM

Doug, Are there any markings on the pistol or magazine?

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 10:33 PM

Oops my other pics didn't post will retry! No magazine markings but there are markings on the pistol. And all part numbers match.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-06-2013, 10:39 PM

Doug..what's on the chamber? Date? Eagle? Blank?

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 10:41 PM

Here are a few markings

Edward Tinker · 01-06-2013, 10:44 PM

Ok, I see a serial number with an 'i' suffix, so either made right after WW1 new or made from a WW1 luger.

Can you show us the top - does it have a date?

Do you know the caliber? a 9mm will drop a normal pencil straight into it, while a 30 luger would be tight///

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 10:46 PM

Top of action

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 10:49 PM

Top of action

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 10:53 PM

Bottom of clip

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 10:57 PM

A number 2 pencil fits loosely so I believe a 9mm! Thank u so much.

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 11:03 PM

Safety

Edward Tinker · 01-06-2013, 11:16 PM

no date on the top of the receiver?

is there a matching serial number on the underside of the barrel?

I assume the word germany is on the left or right of the luger?

Is there a crown N on the left or are there acceptance / proofs on the right

And in answer to the questions above, Germany would show that it was a export to the USA - likely in the 1920's

Crown N would be on a made for sale gun in the 1920's, while proofs on the right would be showing that it is a rework / which is ok for this era

The longer barrel could be ordered in almost any size during the 1920's - 1930's (early 1930's)

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 11:31 PM

No dates, there is a crown over an M I will post a pic of it tommorrow. There are matching serial numbers on barrels and all parts!

DoFo · 01-06-2013, 11:32 PM

Germany is on the bottom of clip

alanint · 01-07-2013, 08:07 AM

Can we see a photo of the rearmost section of the slide, (toggle)? I don't see a back sight in your profile photo. What does that area look like?

John Sabato · 01-07-2013, 08:41 AM

I believe that the barrel is from a Navy Luger. The front sight base appears to be much higher than the standard sight base, and the sight blade itself appears to have been reshaped to be lower to make the gun shoot to point of aim.

How well does the gun shoot?

DoFo · 01-07-2013, 09:57 AM

M and crown

DoFo · 01-07-2013, 10:01 AM

It has not been fired in over 30 years! I don't want to fire it til I learn more!

DoFo · 01-07-2013, 10:04 AM

No dates very few markings! 5067 with 67 stamped on many parts except the barrel! Crown and M only stamp on the barrel.

DoFo · 01-07-2013, 10:05 AM

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01-06-2013, 07:50 PM	#1
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help grandfathers Luger Gramps had this before the war. Kept it Ina desk drawer for security during the war. Any ideas about what it is? Attached Thumbnails

01-06-2013, 08:03 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Doug, Are there any markings on the pistol or magazine? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-06-2013, 10:39 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Doug..what's on the chamber? Date? Eagle? Blank? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-06-2013, 10:41 PM	#5
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	More pics Here are a few markings Attached Thumbnails

01-06-2013, 10:44 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	Ok, I see a serial number with an 'i' suffix, so either made right after WW1 new or made from a WW1 luger. Can you show us the top - does it have a date? Do you know the caliber? a 9mm will drop a normal pencil straight into it, while a 30 luger would be tight/// __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-06-2013, 10:33 PM	#3
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oops my other pics didn't post will retry! No magazine markings but there are markings on the pistol. And all part numbers match.

01-06-2013, 10:46 PM	#7
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Top of action

01-06-2013, 10:49 PM	#8
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Action Top of action Attached Thumbnails

01-06-2013, 10:53 PM	#9
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Clip Bottom of clip Attached Thumbnails

01-06-2013, 10:57 PM	#10
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A number 2 pencil fits loosely so I believe a 9mm! Thank u so much.

01-06-2013, 11:03 PM	#11
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Safty Safety Attached Thumbnails

01-06-2013, 11:16 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	no date on the top of the receiver? is there a matching serial number on the underside of the barrel? I assume the word germany is on the left or right of the luger? Is there a crown N on the left or are there acceptance / proofs on the right And in answer to the questions above, Germany would show that it was a export to the USA - likely in the 1920's Crown N would be on a made for sale gun in the 1920's, while proofs on the right would be showing that it is a rework / which is ok for this era The longer barrel could be ordered in almost any size during the 1920's - 1930's (early 1930's)

01-06-2013, 11:31 PM	#13
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No dates, there is a crown over an M I will post a pic of it tommorrow. There are matching serial numbers on barrels and all parts!

01-06-2013, 11:32 PM	#14
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Germany is on the bottom of clip

01-07-2013, 08:07 AM	#15
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Can we see a photo of the rearmost section of the slide, (toggle)? I don't see a back sight in your profile photo. What does that area look like?

01-07-2013, 08:41 AM	#16
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Navy Barrel? I believe that the barrel is from a Navy Luger. The front sight base appears to be much higher than the standard sight base, and the sight blade itself appears to have been reshaped to be lower to make the gun shoot to point of aim. How well does the gun shoot? Attached Images __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-07-2013, 09:57 AM	#17
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Barrel M and crown Attached Thumbnails

01-07-2013, 10:01 AM	#18
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rear site It has not been fired in over 30 years! I don't want to fire it til I learn more! Attached Thumbnails

01-07-2013, 10:04 AM	#19
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No dates very few markings! 5067 with 67 stamped on many parts except the barrel! Crown and M only stamp on the barrel.

01-07-2013, 10:05 AM	#20
DoFo User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another View Attached Thumbnails