US Leather Cartridge Case

cirelaw · 10-22-2012, 02:09 PM

About ten year ago I paid fifty buck for this leather case. It already had ammo and I don't know any more. I would appreciate any info about it and its markings.

tenbears · 10-22-2012, 02:33 PM

Looks like an 30-40 Krag cartridge case with several CAV unit marks very cool.

cirelaw · 10-22-2012, 02:35 PM

Thanks! Can you date it?

tenbears · 10-22-2012, 03:40 PM

The 30-40 Krag was used for only a short period of time before being replaced with the 03 Springfield. Time frame 1894- early 1900's.

swampsavage · 10-22-2012, 03:43 PM

1890-1903

swampsavage · 10-22-2012, 04:15 PM

BTW...these go for big bucks with collectors of early western gear.

alanint · 10-22-2012, 06:05 PM

A Troop, 9th. Cavalry, Weapon number 50?

swampsavage · 10-22-2012, 06:24 PM

9th Cavalry fought alongside Teddy Roosevelt during Spanish American war. Up San Juan hill etc. You got a piece of history there.

cirelaw · 10-22-2012, 06:46 PM

On the other side!

cirelaw · 10-22-2012, 08:02 PM

Thanks John. Now I know what I have. I also have another from the arsenal made around the same time. Tks Eric

GySgt1811 · 10-22-2012, 09:43 PM

"9th Cavalry fought alongside Teddy Roosevelt during Spanish American war. Up San Juan hill etc. You got a piece of history there."

If I remember correctly, the 9th Cav were the "Buffalo Soldiers" and, at that time, one of the Company Commanders on the trek up Kettle and San Juan hills was a young Captain named John "Black Jack" Pershing. (Although his real nickname was far more derogatory...)

Great Artifact!!!

Regards,

John

rolandtg · 10-22-2012, 10:23 PM

The ammo looks like it might be 7.62x54r. Russian rifle ammo.

Also, here's a replica of your case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US...tridge_box.JPG

cirelaw · 10-22-2012, 11:54 PM

Thank You, now I know what I have. The ammo I agree is not right!

MikeP · 10-23-2012, 01:42 AM

Looks like 30/40 to me. It is rimmed ammo.
Krag has about the smoothest action of all.

cirelaw · 10-23-2012, 06:40 AM

Great stuff!! Thank for all the support! Eric

cirelaw · 10-23-2012, 10:36 AM

I stand corrected! Now to find the correct ammo.

mjanway · 10-23-2012, 02:07 PM

1898 Krag (in a 1899 stock)

cirelaw · 10-23-2012, 02:29 PM

Simply Beautiful!!!

alanint · 10-23-2012, 02:43 PM

Can you show us a detail of the tool, included with the ammo pouch?

cirelaw · 10-23-2012, 02:55 PM

It was not with it? What kind of tool that I'm missing?

10-22-2012, 03:43 PM	#5
swampsavage User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Jackson County, GA Posts: 43 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1890-1903 __________________ John

10-22-2012, 04:15 PM	#6
swampsavage User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Jackson County, GA Posts: 43 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BTW...these go for big bucks with collectors of early western gear. __________________ John

10-22-2012, 06:24 PM	#8
swampsavage User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Jackson County, GA Posts: 43 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	9th Cavalry fought alongside Teddy Roosevelt during Spanish American war. Up San Juan hill etc. You got a piece of history there. __________________ John

10-22-2012, 09:43 PM	#11
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	9th Cav "9th Cavalry fought alongside Teddy Roosevelt during Spanish American war. Up San Juan hill etc. You got a piece of history there." If I remember correctly, the 9th Cav were the "Buffalo Soldiers" and, at that time, one of the Company Commanders on the trek up Kettle and San Juan hills was a young Captain named John "Black Jack" Pershing. (Although his real nickname was far more derogatory...) Great Artifact!!! Regards, John

10-22-2012, 02:33 PM	#2
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Looks like an 30-40 Krag cartridge case with several CAV unit marks very cool.

10-22-2012, 02:35 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Thanks! Can you date it?

10-22-2012, 03:40 PM	#4
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	The 30-40 Krag was used for only a short period of time before being replaced with the 03 Springfield. Time frame 1894- early 1900's.

10-22-2012, 06:05 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	A Troop, 9th. Cavalry, Weapon number 50?

10-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#12
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 480 Thanks: 394 Thanked 266 Times in 115 Posts	The ammo looks like it might be 7.62x54r. Russian rifle ammo. Also, here's a replica of your case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US...tridge_box.JPG

10-22-2012, 11:54 PM	#13
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Thank You, now I know what I have. The ammo I agree is not right!

10-23-2012, 01:42 AM	#14
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Looks like 30/40 to me. It is rimmed ammo. Krag has about the smoothest action of all.

10-23-2012, 02:29 PM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Simply Beautiful!!!

10-23-2012, 02:43 PM	#19
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Can you show us a detail of the tool, included with the ammo pouch?

10-23-2012, 02:55 PM	#20
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	It was not with it? What kind of tool that I'm missing?