Question on Luger

vesuvio · 09-13-2012, 01:42 PM

A coworker want to get an idea of the value of his luger. Notice the front and rear sight are not the type normally found on Lugers. The inside of the grips are not marked.
Thank you

Ron Wood · 09-13-2012, 01:49 PM

The gun is a 1920's commercial and most likely in .30 caliber (7.65mm). The front sight is an aftermarket item, probably a Marbles brand. The rear sight has been filed down and highly modified. The grips are reproduction. They are very good quality Swiss-style grips made in Italy, probably the best feature of the gun. The magzine is a former police issue that has been filed down and renumbered to match the gun...it is also incorrect in that the original magazine for this gun would have had a wooden base.
The gun appears refinished and with the modified sights it has little or no collector interest. The value is approximately $400, give or take a little.

SIGP2101 · 09-13-2012, 01:50 PM

Non matching shooter, mag was forced matched to the serial#, sights modified, rear toggle non matching to the gun. That is all based on pics you provided.

vesuvio · 09-13-2012, 01:50 PM

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DavidJayUden · 09-13-2012, 03:09 PM

I see it as a very presentable shooter. I'd guestimate that it could bring more than what Ron stated, but to a collector it has little interest. It would actually be a very nice shooter IF it is 9mm, but probably not. $800 MAX, $650 on average. Just depends on how good a salesman you are. Which remiinds me of an old Criminal Justice Professor I had many years ago: "The only difference between seduction and rape is salesmanship...".
dju

jussi16 · 09-13-2012, 05:58 PM

In my opinion this mag is an East German. Very easy to detect. Some are with a WH body too. Many people take them as police mags, sorry.

Andyd · 09-14-2012, 11:56 AM

The Vopo mags that I have seen are all extruded and marked 2-1001.

John Sabato · 09-14-2012, 12:41 PM

Andyd

Your observation is true for NEW VOPO mags... but both the East Germans and Russians pressed every available functional magazine into service... so some of the old Pre-WW2 mags were also found with these guns. Some repaired, and some original condition...

DavidJayUden · 09-14-2012, 01:13 PM

Any visible import marks?
dju

09-13-2012, 01:49 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,119 Thanked 5,286 Times in 1,728 Posts	The gun is a 1920's commercial and most likely in .30 caliber (7.65mm). The front sight is an aftermarket item, probably a Marbles brand. The rear sight has been filed down and highly modified. The grips are reproduction. They are very good quality Swiss-style grips made in Italy, probably the best feature of the gun. The magzine is a former police issue that has been filed down and renumbered to match the gun...it is also incorrect in that the original magazine for this gun would have had a wooden base. The gun appears refinished and with the modified sights it has little or no collector interest. The value is approximately $400, give or take a little. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-14-2012, 12:41 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	Andyd Your observation is true for NEW VOPO mags... but both the East Germans and Russians pressed every available functional magazine into service... so some of the old Pre-WW2 mags were also found with these guns. Some repaired, and some original condition... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-13-2012, 01:50 PM	#3
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	Non matching shooter, mag was forced matched to the serial#, sights modified, rear toggle non matching to the gun. That is all based on pics you provided.

09-13-2012, 03:09 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I see it as a very presentable shooter. I'd guestimate that it could bring more than what Ron stated, but to a collector it has little interest. It would actually be a very nice shooter IF it is 9mm, but probably not. $800 MAX, $650 on average. Just depends on how good a salesman you are. Which remiinds me of an old Criminal Justice Professor I had many years ago: "The only difference between seduction and rape is salesmanship...". dju

09-13-2012, 05:58 PM	#6
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 53 Times in 31 Posts	In my opinion this mag is an East German. Very easy to detect. Some are with a WH body too. Many people take them as police mags, sorry.

09-14-2012, 11:56 AM	#7
Andyd User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Kaufman County, Texas Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The Vopo mags that I have seen are all extruded and marked 2-1001.

09-14-2012, 01:13 PM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Any visible import marks? dju