Looking at my first Luger, good deal?

Gibbles · 03-17-2010, 09:16 PM

I found this from a kinda local seller, in his ad he lists it as: "Erma-Werke .380 Caliber Pistol Model KGP68A. Just lowered price and relisted. German made in the 1940's. Excellent condition. Shoots nice. Includes 2 Clips and Leather Holster"

Here is a picture...

He is asking $450, I was thinking about offering $400 and drive 4 hours to the other end of the state for it.

What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance.

wlyon · 03-17-2010, 09:47 PM

Personally I don't think much of any of the Erma's. This is really not a luger but ,in my opinion a poor rip off with something like a luger action. If your looking for a luger,buy a luger. Bill

Bluff Lake 36 · 03-17-2010, 09:54 PM

These pistols were manufactured between 1964 & 1986. In the standard catalog of firearms they are listed at: Exc. $350 - V.G. $300 & Good at $250.. This pistol KGP-68A was probably made after 1968 when a magazine safety was added.
Save your money.

Gibbles · 03-17-2010, 10:02 PM

Thanks guys, sounds like I'm best to just pass for now and wait till I can afford a real luger.
Hopefully won't be much longer.

I may just offer him $200 and see what he says.
Lots of bankrupt people in the town he is in, bottom fell out of a little booming oddball town, houses are dirt cheap, and getting cheaper every day.

Wife would like a little road trip.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-17-2010, 10:27 PM

The pistol is a waste of time unless you want a jamamatic .22 made of pot metal. I might make the trip for the holster though! Very cool leather...

If your looking for a luger,buy a luger. Bill Excellent advice!

Jerry Burney

wmdrew · 03-18-2010, 02:26 PM

Gibbles,
Bill L and Jerry are right,,,,,,save your money for the real deal.

Bill

Gibbles · 03-18-2010, 06:48 PM

Ok, I'll take all of your advice and skip it, but I would love to add a luger to my collection.

One day, hopefully soon.

DavidJayUden · 03-18-2010, 10:53 PM

Down the road you will realize how brilliant you are for walking away from that one...
dju

Gibbles · 03-20-2010, 12:39 PM

yeah probably.

I have been pretty lucky so far, even guns that had issues I have been able to work the issues out usually with nothing more than some small fine files, sand paper, and a dremel polishing wheel & sometimes some grinding bits...

If the guy ever emails me back about the gun I may let him know it was NOT made in the 1940's.

There is that non matching luger in the sale forum.. if he comes down a bit more I may pick that one up.

A shooter is all I really want, a nice shooter would be better though...

Jasta2 · 03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

I bought one of these Erma's quite a few years back that the dealer said was excellent and shot perfectly. Well one out of two may not be bad in some cases. This one looked new, but could not feed one clip without a coupe of jams. I returned to the dealer who insisted it worked perfectly. I said "Show me". At that point he refunded my cash.
Bill

suum cuique · 03-20-2010, 06:06 PM

I have an Erma EP 752 S , .22 LR
It looks like a Walther PPK and it works great.
I don't know if they still make them, I 've bought it back in the mid-late 80's.

alvin · 03-20-2010, 06:14 PM

If it's in a local shop, buying one to play is OK.

Four hour driving (one way?) is too much work for this piece.

03-17-2010, 09:16 PM	#1
Gibbles New User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looking at my first Luger, good deal? I found this from a kinda local seller, in his ad he lists it as: "Erma-Werke .380 Caliber Pistol Model KGP68A. Just lowered price and relisted. German made in the 1940's. Excellent condition. Shoots nice. Includes 2 Clips and Leather Holster" Here is a picture... He is asking $450, I was thinking about offering $400 and drive 4 hours to the other end of the state for it. What do you guys think? Thanks in advance.

03-17-2010, 09:47 PM	#2
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,652 Thanks: 3,210 Thanked 2,613 Times in 969 Posts	Personally I don't think much of any of the Erma's. This is really not a luger but ,in my opinion a poor rip off with something like a luger action. If your looking for a luger,buy a luger. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-17-2010, 09:54 PM	#3
Bluff Lake 36 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 80 Times in 39 Posts	Kgp-68a These pistols were manufactured between 1964 & 1986. In the standard catalog of firearms they are listed at: Exc. $350 - V.G. $300 & Good at $250.. This pistol KGP-68A was probably made after 1968 when a magazine safety was added. Save your money.

03-17-2010, 10:27 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	The pistol is a waste of time unless you want a jamamatic .22 made of pot metal. I might make the trip for the holster though! Very cool leather... If your looking for a luger,buy a luger. Bill Excellent advice! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-20-2010, 06:06 PM	#11
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	I have an Erma EP 752 S , .22 LR It looks like a Walther PPK and it works great. I don't know if they still make them, I 've bought it back in the mid-late 80's. __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

03-17-2010, 10:02 PM	#4
Gibbles New User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys, sounds like I'm best to just pass for now and wait till I can afford a real luger. Hopefully won't be much longer. I may just offer him $200 and see what he says. Lots of bankrupt people in the town he is in, bottom fell out of a little booming oddball town, houses are dirt cheap, and getting cheaper every day. Wife would like a little road trip.

03-18-2010, 02:26 PM	#6
wmdrew User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 13 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Gibbles, Bill L and Jerry are right,,,,,,save your money for the real deal. Bill

03-18-2010, 06:48 PM	#7
Gibbles New User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, I'll take all of your advice and skip it, but I would love to add a luger to my collection. One day, hopefully soon.

03-18-2010, 10:53 PM	#8
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Down the road you will realize how brilliant you are for walking away from that one... dju

03-20-2010, 12:39 PM	#9
Gibbles New User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah probably. I have been pretty lucky so far, even guns that had issues I have been able to work the issues out usually with nothing more than some small fine files, sand paper, and a dremel polishing wheel & sometimes some grinding bits... If the guy ever emails me back about the gun I may let him know it was NOT made in the 1940's. There is that non matching luger in the sale forum.. if he comes down a bit more I may pick that one up. A shooter is all I really want, a nice shooter would be better though...

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM	#10
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	I bought one of these Erma's quite a few years back that the dealer said was excellent and shot perfectly. Well one out of two may not be bad in some cases. This one looked new, but could not feed one clip without a coupe of jams. I returned to the dealer who insisted it worked perfectly. I said "Show me". At that point he refunded my cash. Bill

03-20-2010, 06:14 PM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	If it's in a local shop, buying one to play is OK. Four hour driving (one way?) is too much work for this piece.