need advice first: 1917 Luger

Jackson.00 · 04-19-2009, 11:26 PM

Hi all,

New to the forum, and also to Lugers other than general knowledge. I just came into possession of a 1917 Luger. All the parts seem to be matching...either marked 53 or 3753. I did not take it fully apart as I don't know how, but I poked around a bit and it seems to be in decent condition with no rust and only a wee bit of pitting. I only started doing research last night so I'm not exactly down with terms...but I'm thinking it could stand to be "re-blued" or used as a regular shooter? Comes with the original clip, which is still fully loaded. Also came with a holster but its not like the black ones I've seen on the web...the holster is brown and is marked "Audley, Patented October 12, 1913).

I do need to sell it as the proceeds will go to myself and a second party...otherwise I would love to keep it til I'm old and in need of nursing home money, lol. I've never sold a gun before...or even had a gun in my possession for that matter, so not sure where to start.

Attaching some pics...any input or interest would be welcomed...

oh, the pics are clickable thumnails...so click on them to see the full size versions...

Jackson.00 · 04-19-2009, 11:28 PM

thumbnails won't get bigger...let me try again...

Edward Tinker · 04-19-2009, 11:34 PM

Welcome to the forum. I moved this to the New Collector area, as it is required to post a price in the for sale section.

I would guess $600-$800 for the 1917, it looks in okay shape except for the barrel. Your Audley holster is worth from $50-$100 by itself.

Ed

Jackson.00 · 04-19-2009, 11:35 PM

thanks for moving it ed! wasn't sure where to go.

Edward Tinker · 04-19-2009, 11:39 PM

Jackson, it could be worth more, always hard to tell, and also if it is all matching, etc....

Ed

Jackson.00 · 04-19-2009, 11:56 PM

i'll try to take some better pictures tomorrow...the light in my apartment is rather challenging.

George Anderson · 04-20-2009, 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=Jackson.00;158244]Hi all,

I do need to sell it as the proceeds will go to myself and a second party...otherwise I would love to keep it til I'm old and in need of nursing home money, lol. I've never sold a gun before...or even had a gun in my possession for that matter, so not sure where to start.

Given this statement and the items in the background of some of your photos I don't think I would want to be the customer in your first gun sale.

Jackson.00 · 04-20-2009, 04:11 PM

george i hope thats a joke, but since this is the internet its always so hard to tell.

what you are looking at in the background are historic artifacts from architecturally and socially significant state psychiatric hospitals which are now demolished, or on their way to being demolished. i am a history nerd, with a special interest in mental health/psychiatric history...as that is also my line of work. probably not the best background for a gun without the full story, ha ha...but again, the lighting in my apartment is challenging and the ancient wheelchair its sitting on is right under the window.

John Sabato · 04-20-2009, 05:17 PM

Jackson.00

Please check your private messages by clicking on Quick Links, and then under Micellaneous, click on Private Messages.

Jackson.00 · 04-20-2009, 08:06 PM

John,
Just replied, thank you!

Edward Tinker · 04-20-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson.00

george i hope thats a joke, but since this is the internet its always so hard to tell.

....i am a history nerd, with a special interest in mental health/psychiatric history...as that is also my line of work. probably not the best background for a gun without the full story....

It is illegal for someone with mental health issues to buy a gun, so.... Whether Geo was kidding or not, perhaps not the best "backgrounds" for a gun

sheepherder · 04-20-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

It is illegal for someone with mental health issues to buy a gun, so....

He didn't say he bought it...It came into his possession...

I, for one, am all in favor of his finding a buyer for it...quickly...

Jackson.00 · 04-21-2009, 12:13 AM

wow postino, you are ever so clever with your wording and face icons. thanks for contributing such valuable and insightful information to my info-seeking thread.

Jackson.00 · 04-21-2009, 12:25 AM

john and ed...thank you so much for your help so far! you are great moderators!

i would love to hear from any massachusetts residents who know the law and wouldn't mind helping to guide me through the process of selling. as i am a law abiding citizen i do not want to go about finding this luger a new home the wrong way, and I know that massachusetts is a bit strict with their gun laws.

if people are still distracted by the state hospital towels in the background of my photos, i will be happy to just take the photos down so the purpose of my thread can be better focused on rather than a bunch of old hand towels. sometimes you have to turn off the tv to get the kids to pay attention to what your saying, right?

John Sabato · 04-21-2009, 09:39 AM

You should be contacted within the next couple of days via email by someone who can help. Let me know if you are not...

sovblocgunfan · 04-21-2009, 07:26 PM

Please do not reblue the pistol.

sheepherder · 04-23-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson.00

wow postino, you are ever so clever with your wording and face icons. thanks for contributing such valuable and insightful information to my info-seeking thread.

Sorry, Jackson; I thought anyone who used mental hospital towels as a background for a Luger would have a sense of humor...

*I* think the towels + Luger are funny...

I'm in NY, not MA, or I'd be interested...but it's a long drive (8 1/2 hours; just picked up a rescued dog in White Plains a few months back)...

You might try a post on Jan Still's forum, too...Might be some Mass residents on that one...

Although most of them have no sense of humor either...

Jackson.00 · 04-23-2009, 11:19 PM

awww...thumbs up to you for rescuing a dog! my gf has a raggedy lil rescue dog that i love (never thought i'd be such a sucker for one of those tiny girly dogs)...trying to convince both of them that there is room in the house for a rescued beagle or basset, ha ha.

i'll check out jans forum, thanks man.

alvin · 04-24-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson.00

i would love to hear from any massachusetts residents who know the law and wouldn't mind helping to guide me through the process of selling.

For some reason, Luger is not on Mass "Good Handgun List".

If the gun was registered in Massachusetts before 10/21/1998, you can sell it to a Massachusetts LTC (a.k.a. "permit") holder, fill in a state form (available from town police, asking firearm transaction form) and mail it to the address as printed on it.

If the gun was not registered before that date (or buyer is not Mass resident), buyer's FFL or tranferring FFL is required. Since the buyer is FFL holder, he/she knows what to do.

Either way, make sure you get the money. Law does not care that. You do.

04-19-2009, 11:26 PM	#1
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	need advice first: 1917 Luger Hi all, New to the forum, and also to Lugers other than general knowledge. I just came into possession of a 1917 Luger. All the parts seem to be matching...either marked 53 or 3753. I did not take it fully apart as I don't know how, but I poked around a bit and it seems to be in decent condition with no rust and only a wee bit of pitting. I only started doing research last night so I'm not exactly down with terms...but I'm thinking it could stand to be "re-blued" or used as a regular shooter? Comes with the original clip, which is still fully loaded. Also came with a holster but its not like the black ones I've seen on the web...the holster is brown and is marked "Audley, Patented October 12, 1913). I do need to sell it as the proceeds will go to myself and a second party...otherwise I would love to keep it til I'm old and in need of nursing home money, lol. I've never sold a gun before...or even had a gun in my possession for that matter, so not sure where to start. Attaching some pics...any input or interest would be welcomed... oh, the pics are clickable thumnails...so click on them to see the full size versions...

04-19-2009, 11:39 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Jackson, it could be worth more, always hard to tell, and also if it is all matching, etc.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-20-2009, 05:17 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Jackson.00 Please check your private messages by clicking on Quick Links, and then under Micellaneous, click on Private Messages. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-21-2009, 09:39 AM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	You should be contacted within the next couple of days via email by someone who can help. Let me know if you are not... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-19-2009, 11:28 PM	#2
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thumbnails won't get bigger...let me try again...

04-19-2009, 11:34 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Welcome to the forum. I moved this to the New Collector area, as it is required to post a price in the for sale section. I would guess $600-$800 for the 1917, it looks in okay shape except for the barrel. Your Audley holster is worth from $50-$100 by itself. Ed

04-19-2009, 11:35 PM	#4
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for moving it ed! wasn't sure where to go.

04-19-2009, 11:56 PM	#6
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i'll try to take some better pictures tomorrow...the light in my apartment is rather challenging.

04-20-2009, 08:20 AM	#7
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	[QUOTE=Jackson.00;158244]Hi all, I do need to sell it as the proceeds will go to myself and a second party...otherwise I would love to keep it til I'm old and in need of nursing home money, lol. I've never sold a gun before...or even had a gun in my possession for that matter, so not sure where to start. Given this statement and the items in the background of some of your photos I don't think I would want to be the customer in your first gun sale.

04-20-2009, 04:11 PM	#8
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	george i hope thats a joke, but since this is the internet its always so hard to tell. what you are looking at in the background are historic artifacts from architecturally and socially significant state psychiatric hospitals which are now demolished, or on their way to being demolished. i am a history nerd, with a special interest in mental health/psychiatric history...as that is also my line of work. probably not the best background for a gun without the full story, ha ha...but again, the lighting in my apartment is challenging and the ancient wheelchair its sitting on is right under the window.

04-20-2009, 08:06 PM	#10
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, Just replied, thank you!

04-21-2009, 12:13 AM	#13
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wow postino, you are ever so clever with your wording and face icons. thanks for contributing such valuable and insightful information to my info-seeking thread.

04-21-2009, 12:25 AM	#14
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	john and ed...thank you so much for your help so far! you are great moderators! i would love to hear from any massachusetts residents who know the law and wouldn't mind helping to guide me through the process of selling. as i am a law abiding citizen i do not want to go about finding this luger a new home the wrong way, and I know that massachusetts is a bit strict with their gun laws. if people are still distracted by the state hospital towels in the background of my photos, i will be happy to just take the photos down so the purpose of my thread can be better focused on rather than a bunch of old hand towels. sometimes you have to turn off the tv to get the kids to pay attention to what your saying, right?

04-21-2009, 07:26 PM	#16
sovblocgunfan User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Please do not reblue the pistol.

04-23-2009, 11:19 PM	#18
Jackson.00 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	awww...thumbs up to you for rescuing a dog! my gf has a raggedy lil rescue dog that i love (never thought i'd be such a sucker for one of those tiny girly dogs)...trying to convince both of them that there is room in the house for a rescued beagle or basset, ha ha. i'll check out jans forum, thanks man.