Holster ID and appraisal

BMW · 02-06-2006, 07:56 PM

I don't know much about these and need a bit of help. There are some little dots on the leather that I assume are paint. I apologize for the amount of pictures, but I thought it would be better than too few.

Edward Tinker · 02-06-2006, 08:31 PM

Looks like a very nice holster, brown is desirable to many collectors. Odd that someone completly took off the rear straps? That brings value down to many, I would guess $50 to replace the straps? Even without the straps, $150-$200, maybe more as it is in nice shape... but even an expert has to be awful careful to ensure the straps were replaced (and no matter how good it looks, they would have been replaced...)

Ed

BMW · 02-06-2006, 09:18 PM

Thanks for the reply Ed. Can you shed some light on the name and stamp? I don't know anything about these. I think I have the year part figured out though.

Edward Tinker · 02-06-2006, 09:45 PM

I don't know the name specifically, the city it was made in is Heidelberg, a very nice city in Mid Germany, near Mannheim.

ed

wlyon · 02-07-2006, 02:20 PM

The manufacturer was Wilhelm Brand , whos company was founded in 1900 and may still be in business as Wilhelm Brand KG, Walldorf. His inspection number was 204. His letter code was jvf. Nice holster. Jerry Burney can fix the loops. ( lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net )

Pete Ebbink · 02-08-2006, 08:35 PM

Ed,

You might consider having LF member Jerry Burney restore the belt looks and maybe even replace the closure strap...you will not be displeased with his craftsmanship...

This holster, in such nice shape, deserves to be restored to its functional condition...

John Sabato · 02-09-2006, 09:20 AM

What a tragedy to have a holster in this fine a condition have it's belt loops and lifting strap removed... by all means have Jerry Burney do a restoration of this piece...

the gunman · 02-09-2006, 10:34 AM

The lifting strap appears intact.

Pete Ebbink · 02-09-2006, 10:38 AM

Richie...

I think the strap is still inserted in the hole in the front of the holster, but where it is stitched to the back of the holster (next to one of the belt loops) is missing its stitches...so I think John S's eagle eye caught it...

Ron Wood · 02-09-2006, 10:56 AM

Judging by how neatly the belt loops have been removed, I would hazard a guess that the original loops were cut (a common practice that was employed to quickly remove the holster from a belt) and a previous owner removed the loops intending to replace them and never got around to it.

It is an excellent holster and well worthy of being restored by Jerry Burney as John has suggested.

02-06-2006, 07:56 PM	#1
BMW User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Holster ID and appraisal I don't know much about these and need a bit of help. There are some little dots on the leather that I assume are paint. I apologize for the amount of pictures, but I thought it would be better than too few.

02-06-2006, 08:31 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,946 Thanks: 2,047 Thanked 4,555 Times in 2,104 Posts	Looks like a very nice holster, brown is desirable to many collectors. Odd that someone completly took off the rear straps? That brings value down to many, I would guess $50 to replace the straps? Even without the straps, $150-$200, maybe more as it is in nice shape... but even an expert has to be awful careful to ensure the straps were replaced (and no matter how good it looks, they would have been replaced...) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-07-2006, 02:20 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,642 Thanks: 3,193 Thanked 2,580 Times in 961 Posts	The manufacturer was Wilhelm Brand , whos company was founded in 1900 and may still be in business as Wilhelm Brand KG, Walldorf. His inspection number was 204. His letter code was jvf. Nice holster. Jerry Burney can fix the loops. ( lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net ) __________________ Bill Lyon

02-09-2006, 09:20 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	What a tragedy to have a holster in this fine a condition have it's belt loops and lifting strap removed... by all means have Jerry Burney do a restoration of this piece... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-09-2006, 10:56 AM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,028 Thanks: 1,101 Thanked 5,215 Times in 1,712 Posts	Judging by how neatly the belt loops have been removed, I would hazard a guess that the original loops were cut (a common practice that was employed to quickly remove the holster from a belt) and a previous owner removed the loops intending to replace them and never got around to it. It is an excellent holster and well worthy of being restored by Jerry Burney as John has suggested. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-06-2006, 09:18 PM	#3
BMW User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the reply Ed. Can you shed some light on the name and stamp? I don't know anything about these. I think I have the year part figured out though.

02-06-2006, 09:45 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,946 Thanks: 2,047 Thanked 4,555 Times in 2,104 Posts	I don't know the name specifically, the city it was made in is Heidelberg, a very nice city in Mid Germany, near Mannheim. ed

02-08-2006, 08:35 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Ed, You might consider having LF member Jerry Burney restore the belt looks and maybe even replace the closure strap...you will not be displeased with his craftsmanship... This holster, in such nice shape, deserves to be restored to its functional condition...

02-09-2006, 10:34 AM	#8
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	The lifting strap appears intact.

02-09-2006, 10:38 AM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Richie... I think the strap is still inserted in the hole in the front of the holster, but where it is stitched to the back of the holster (next to one of the belt loops) is missing its stitches...so I think John S's eagle eye caught it...