Borchardt Tool

schwob · 03-17-2005, 01:30 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...517999257&rd=1
Thought this might be of an interest to someone on the Forum.

Ron Wood · 03-17-2005, 03:06 PM

I had never seen one of these for sale, and now TWO within about a month! I suspect Murray's successful sale of his extra one brought this one out of hiding.

schwob · 03-17-2005, 05:00 PM

Ron, do you think these were the work of our little copy elves??

Ron Wood · 03-17-2005, 05:32 PM

Hard to say. The photos aren't clear enough to render any kind of objective opinion. In all probability this is a situation of... "Wow, look at the price that last one brought! I've got one, lets see if I can make a killing on mine!". Even if it isn't a copy, at these prices it won't be long until the elves are at work.

schwob · 03-17-2005, 05:51 PM

Ron, unfortunately your quiet correct. Too bad, casts a light on the joy of collecting. Still ya gotta keep smiling...........!

Big Norm · 03-18-2005, 02:20 AM

Well, I am still waiting to receive mine from Murray. (He is on vacation elsewhere in NZ). With nice navy magazines going for $350 and Borchardt magazines going for $1000, I didn't think that the price on this Barring/Cleaning/Hold-open magazine to be too far out. But it did hurt to write the check. As Ron said, these things don't come up for sale very often. I don't think that it would be worth the work for the elves because the demand is too small. The one that I bought would be considered a little better than the one for sale because I have both of the two tightening bars and the one for sale doesn't. I do wonder about the markings on the side but I will see when I get it.

Anyone have any idea what the oil can would cost? What does one look like? There was talk of a screw driver in a previous discussion. what does that look like? What else is needed for a cased set?

Big Norm

Ron Wood · 03-18-2005, 11:05 AM

Norm,
Go to Chuck Whittaker's web site Land of Borchardt . He has full cased sets of Borchardts and you can see what the oil can and screwdriver looks like. The screwdriver has interchangeable bits and I think it came with three bits. I have seen the screwdriver come up for sale a time or two (don't remember price) but I have never seen an oil can...probably pretty expensive.

Big Norm · 03-18-2005, 11:44 AM

Thanks Ron. I had seen the Barring Block at gun shows, so I had an idea what they were. But people at gun shows don't want to let people take too close a look at and then disassemble one. I guess that the price really intimidates a lot of people. Plus, I never thought that I would get one so I never tried hard to take a close look.

Funny how things happen. When I first started collecting Lugers, I never thought that I would ever own a navy Luger. I didn't pay much attention to them because they were so expensive. Now, I have quite a few of them.

I didn't pay much attention to Borchardts either. I thought that because people didn't shoot them, I would never buy one. Now I am thinking about putting together a cased set.
Big Norm

03-17-2005, 01:30 PM	#1
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Borchardt Tool http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...517999257&rd=1 Thought this might be of an interest to someone on the Forum.

03-17-2005, 03:06 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	I had never seen one of these for sale, and now TWO within about a month! I suspect Murray's successful sale of his extra one brought this one out of hiding. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-17-2005, 05:32 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Hard to say. The photos aren't clear enough to render any kind of objective opinion. In all probability this is a situation of... "Wow, look at the price that last one brought! I've got one, lets see if I can make a killing on mine!". Even if it isn't a copy, at these prices it won't be long until the elves are at work. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-18-2005, 11:05 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Norm, Go to Chuck Whittaker's web site Land of Borchardt . He has full cased sets of Borchardts and you can see what the oil can and screwdriver looks like. The screwdriver has interchangeable bits and I think it came with three bits. I have seen the screwdriver come up for sale a time or two (don't remember price) but I have never seen an oil can...probably pretty expensive. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-17-2005, 05:00 PM	#3
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron, do you think these were the work of our little copy elves??

03-17-2005, 05:51 PM	#5
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron, unfortunately your quiet correct. Too bad, casts a light on the joy of collecting. Still ya gotta keep smiling...........!

03-18-2005, 02:20 AM	#6
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Well, I am still waiting to receive mine from Murray. (He is on vacation elsewhere in NZ). With nice navy magazines going for $350 and Borchardt magazines going for $1000, I didn't think that the price on this Barring/Cleaning/Hold-open magazine to be too far out. But it did hurt to write the check. As Ron said, these things don't come up for sale very often. I don't think that it would be worth the work for the elves because the demand is too small. The one that I bought would be considered a little better than the one for sale because I have both of the two tightening bars and the one for sale doesn't. I do wonder about the markings on the side but I will see when I get it. Anyone have any idea what the oil can would cost? What does one look like? There was talk of a screw driver in a previous discussion. what does that look like? What else is needed for a cased set? Big Norm

03-18-2005, 11:44 AM	#8
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks Ron. I had seen the Barring Block at gun shows, so I had an idea what they were. But people at gun shows don't want to let people take too close a look at and then disassemble one. I guess that the price really intimidates a lot of people. Plus, I never thought that I would get one so I never tried hard to take a close look. Funny how things happen. When I first started collecting Lugers, I never thought that I would ever own a navy Luger. I didn't pay much attention to them because they were so expensive. Now, I have quite a few of them. I didn't pay much attention to Borchardts either. I thought that because people didn't shoot them, I would never buy one. Now I am thinking about putting together a cased set. Big Norm