Erfurt 1914 receiver

mecano44 · 06-12-2012, 08:29 AM

Hi

100 mm barrel Erfurt Lugers dated 1917 and 1918 have generally a machined recess for the artillery sight , on front of the receiver.

Now what about 1914 issues ? Somebody offers me such an Erfurt , that seems to have ( according to pictures ) the original barrel, but with this recess on the receiver

Is it possible that somme serials of receivers , machined for the artillery barrel, were finally issued with the standard 100 mm barrel ? maybe just to finish a batch ?

thanks for the help

alanint · 06-12-2012, 08:50 AM

Hi Mecano,

ALL Erfurt Lugers were manufatured with the Artillery sight cut in the receiver, regardless of barrel length. The gun being offered is correct in that respect.

abukafura · 06-12-2012, 08:57 AM

Not necessarily ALL Erfurt Lugers had the cut for the artillery sight. The original, REAL 1914 dated P08 Erfurts up to serial numbers in the mid b range with other characteristics to differentiate them from later Erfurts, did not have the artillery sight cut. This has been discussed previously on this Forum. I hope others who know more about this will chime in as well.

Douglas Jr. · 06-12-2012, 11:04 AM

There are legit P08 Erfurts dated 1916 and 1917 with the receiver without the cut for the artillery sight. If I remember correctly (?), these were made with previously made receivers (pre-1914) but they are plain, correct Erfurts as well.

Douglas

A.Mifsin · 06-12-2012, 12:17 PM

I have a 1917 Erfurt without the Artillery cut.
Alf.

mecano44 · 06-12-2012, 05:31 PM

Many thanks for these replies !

the tangent sight cut seems to be a quite " random characteristic " on all "war period " Erfurt's

according to the seller the serial number of this 14 is in the low " b" range

06-12-2012, 08:29 AM	#1
mecano44 User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Switzerland Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Erfurt 1914 receiver Hi 100 mm barrel Erfurt Lugers dated 1917 and 1918 have generally a machined recess for the artillery sight , on front of the receiver. Now what about 1914 issues ? Somebody offers me such an Erfurt , that seems to have ( according to pictures ) the original barrel, but with this recess on the receiver Is it possible that somme serials of receivers , machined for the artillery barrel, were finally issued with the standard 100 mm barrel ? maybe just to finish a batch ? thanks for the help

06-12-2012, 12:17 PM	#5
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	I have a 1917 Erfurt without the Artillery cut. Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

06-12-2012, 08:50 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Hi Mecano, ALL Erfurt Lugers were manufatured with the Artillery sight cut in the receiver, regardless of barrel length. The gun being offered is correct in that respect.

06-12-2012, 08:57 AM	#3
abukafura Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast Wisconsin, near Greeen Bay Posts: 327 Thanks: 1,314 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	Not necessarily ALL Erfurt Lugers had the cut for the artillery sight. The original, REAL 1914 dated P08 Erfurts up to serial numbers in the mid b range with other characteristics to differentiate them from later Erfurts, did not have the artillery sight cut. This has been discussed previously on this Forum. I hope others who know more about this will chime in as well.

06-12-2012, 11:04 AM	#4
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	There are legit P08 Erfurts dated 1916 and 1917 with the receiver without the cut for the artillery sight. If I remember correctly (?), these were made with previously made receivers (pre-1914) but they are plain, correct Erfurts as well. Douglas

06-12-2012, 05:31 PM	#6
mecano44 User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Switzerland Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Many thanks for these replies ! the tangent sight cut seems to be a quite " random characteristic " on all "war period " Erfurt's according to the seller the serial number of this 14 is in the low " b" range