unit mark question

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 08:26 AM

Dear experts

Would anyone know to which unit the marking "R.S.R.M.G12" on the front grip strap refers?

Thanks,
Jeff

George Anderson · 11-12-2008, 08:37 AM

What is the date on the pistol? Are all the letters block form or is any scriptic?

Edward Tinker · 11-12-2008, 10:41 AM

Jeff, any pictures, further information, etc?

"Assume" it is on a luger....

ed

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 07:29 PM

Sorry to take so long to reply! With a magnifying glass, the inscription looks a bit different:

R.5.R.M.G. 12, seemingly all block capitals.

This is on wht apparently is a 1909 First Military Issue with all matching parts, but reblued, serial 30xx a

Thanks in advance for your insights.

Jeff

George Anderson · 11-12-2008, 09:53 PM

Jeff, your serial number for an '08 first military falls close enough to a bunch of recorded Bavarian '08's for me to guess that your actual marking may be "B.5.R.M.G.12". That would be Bavarian 5th Infantry Regiment, machine gun company, weapon 12. Mr. Jeff Noll reports '08 serial number 9537 as being marked "B.5.R.M.G.47.".

Photos and the actual serial number would be appreciated.

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 10:40 PM

The actual serial is 3019a. I will try to upload 3 photos now.

Jeff

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 10:42 PM

Photos attached, i hope!

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 10:48 PM

Trying again!

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 10:49 PM

again

jeffs · 11-12-2008, 10:50 PM

last of three

Ron Wood · 11-13-2008, 01:16 AM

Jeff,
Nice gun (I like '08s, and First Issues in particular). It would appear that it has not been modified to add the holdopen, which is typical of Bavarian Lugers. So I suspect that George has called it correctly and the first letter is a "B".

jeffs · 11-13-2008, 05:58 AM

Yes, you are correct, there is no hold open.

Thanks to all of you for your help!

Jeff

11-12-2008, 08:26 AM	#1
jeffs User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	unit mark question Dear experts Would anyone know to which unit the marking "R.S.R.M.G12" on the front grip strap refers? Thanks, Jeff

11-12-2008, 10:41 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Jeff, any pictures, further information, etc? "Assume" it is on a luger.... ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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11-12-2008, 08:37 AM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	What is the date on the pistol? Are all the letters block form or is any scriptic?

11-12-2008, 07:29 PM	#4
jeffs User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry to take so long to reply! With a magnifying glass, the inscription looks a bit different: R.5.R.M.G. 12, seemingly all block capitals. This is on wht apparently is a 1909 First Military Issue with all matching parts, but reblued, serial 30xx a Thanks in advance for your insights. Jeff

11-12-2008, 09:53 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Jeff, your serial number for an '08 first military falls close enough to a bunch of recorded Bavarian '08's for me to guess that your actual marking may be "B.5.R.M.G.12". That would be Bavarian 5th Infantry Regiment, machine gun company, weapon 12. Mr. Jeff Noll reports '08 serial number 9537 as being marked "B.5.R.M.G.47.". Photos and the actual serial number would be appreciated.

11-12-2008, 10:40 PM	#6
jeffs User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The actual serial is 3019a. I will try to upload 3 photos now. Jeff

11-12-2008, 10:42 PM	#7
jeffs User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Photos attached, i hope!

11-13-2008, 01:16 AM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Jeff, Nice gun (I like '08s, and First Issues in particular). It would appear that it has not been modified to add the holdopen, which is typical of Bavarian Lugers. So I suspect that George has called it correctly and the first letter is a "B". __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-13-2008, 05:58 AM	#12
jeffs User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, you are correct, there is no hold open. Thanks to all of you for your help! Jeff