What do I have

slowfire · 07-24-2020, 12:34 PM

Avid gun collector but don't know anything about Lugers. Can someone tell me what I have? Also there is a number on top 41 and 42, are the parts mismatched? Thanks

HerrKaiser · 07-24-2020, 12:48 PM

Yes, your parts are mismatched. the Toggle train seems to have 04 whereas the rest of the gun's parts end in 54. The barrel does not look original, and I am not sure about the "GPGI HBG PA" stamp between the serial number and its suffix.

Looks like it will make a nice shooter, I am sure more people will chime in soon.

Doubs · 07-24-2020, 01:52 PM

The 41 on the chamber indicates manufacture in 1941. It was made by Mauser. The mismatched toggle train bears the Mauser code 42 and is not a date.

The barrel is a replacement and the front sight has been filed down. Although numbered to the gun, the side plate lacks finish and may be a replacement.

The stamp between the frame serial number and suffix letter is the importer's mark.

It's a shooter and not a collectible but if it shoots as well as it looks, it should be a good one. It's also a military pistol, not commercial.

George Anderson · 07-24-2020, 03:17 PM

I'd wager it's a Canadian import and the barrel may be a .30 calibre.

Edward Tinker · 07-24-2020, 11:38 PM

It went through some company in what appears to be Harrisburg, Penn - not that I ever heard of imports coming through there when I live 80 miles away

Doubs · 07-25-2020, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

It went through some company in what appears to be Harrisburg, Penn - not that I ever heard of imports coming through there when I live 80 miles away

Ed, I have a BRNO #4 rifle that was imported by KBI Inc. HBG PA. It was sold through National Sports Dist. in Southampton, PA. When I had my FFL, I sold a lot of BRNO rifles that I bought from them. That was in 1993/94 mostly.

sheepherder · 07-25-2020, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

It went through some company in what appears to be Harrisburg, Penn - not that I ever heard of imports coming through there when I live 80 miles away

GPGI
7455 PAXTON ST UNIT 16
Harrisburg, PA 17111
Phone: (717) 554-9664

Also shown as GPG Imports. No web site I could find. Google results seem to show it as an LLC/dealer. FFL listings.

slowfire · 07-26-2020, 06:50 PM

Thank you for the information. I do believe it is a .30 caliber. I have one more, I think it is a DWM, I will post photos when I get a chance.

I realize there are countless variations but a sticky would be helpful for us newbies that shows where the serial numbers should be and other features. Or perhaps a "What to look for when purchasing a P08"

Again, thank you for the information.

Vlim · 07-26-2020, 08:02 PM

We actually have that info for new collectors, thoughtfully placed in a FAQ thread in the 'New Collectors' sub-forum...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

Maybe next time you should read first, before jumping to conclusions?

Collecting Lugers is not simple, not easy and certainly not cheap. You will have to do your homework, buy and read the right books and develop a basic knowledge.

The Luger collecting area is so complex that you cannot expect to be educated by a few comments in a newbie forum.

The PDF document in the link above should get you started, but be prepared to study hard and long.

Good photos, though.

Mac Cat · 07-27-2020, 10:37 AM

Just FYI:

This Forum has a lot of easy to access Technical and General information (see the side bar to the left) to help you identify and catalog the features of your Luger.

Along with weapons and parts, members often sell reference books, many of which are out of print and collectible in themselves.

And, in each of the forum directories, you will find extensive sticky's with the FAQ for each category of Luger. Explore a little.

Collectors are anxious to share their own knowledge, particularly if visitors will post a set of photographs, which are so easy to take with today's advanced cell phone cameras.

Last thing I should mention - this web site is free, but a donation would be very welcome. It's not free to host and moderators spend a good deal of time keeping the forum working and free of spam, bots and constant cyber attacks. You can help support the web site - there's a sticky for that, too!

slowfire · 07-27-2020, 04:28 PM

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Thanks

Doubs · 07-27-2020, 05:38 PM

Standard military 1918 DWM that has been refinished. The side plate is a replacement as it's unnumbered. The grips have been modified.

The stamp on the trigger guard is unusual and appears to be, or may be, a Prussian Eagle. It is not the normal crown/letter stamp found on all Erfurt trigger guards so the frame is likely DWM.

07-24-2020, 12:34 PM	#1
slowfire New User Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 2 Posts	What do I have Avid gun collector but don't know anything about Lugers. Can someone tell me what I have? Also there is a number on top 41 and 42, are the parts mismatched? Thanks Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

07-24-2020, 12:48 PM	#2
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 847 Thanks: 782 Thanked 860 Times in 410 Posts	Yes, your parts are mismatched. the Toggle train seems to have 04 whereas the rest of the gun's parts end in 54. The barrel does not look original, and I am not sure about the "GPGI HBG PA" stamp between the serial number and its suffix. Looks like it will make a nice shooter, I am sure more people will chime in soon. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

07-27-2020, 04:28 PM	#11
slowfire New User Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 2 Posts	Here is the other P08 Thanks

07-24-2020, 01:52 PM	#3
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,696 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,679 Times in 552 Posts	The 41 on the chamber indicates manufacture in 1941. It was made by Mauser. The mismatched toggle train bears the Mauser code 42 and is not a date. The barrel is a replacement and the front sight has been filed down. Although numbered to the gun, the side plate lacks finish and may be a replacement. The stamp between the frame serial number and suffix letter is the importer's mark. It's a shooter and not a collectible but if it shoots as well as it looks, it should be a good one. It's also a military pistol, not commercial.

07-24-2020, 03:17 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	I'd wager it's a Canadian import and the barrel may be a .30 calibre.

07-24-2020, 11:38 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	It went through some company in what appears to be Harrisburg, Penn - not that I ever heard of imports coming through there when I live 80 miles away

07-26-2020, 06:50 PM	#8
slowfire New User Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you for the information. I do believe it is a .30 caliber. I have one more, I think it is a DWM, I will post photos when I get a chance. I realize there are countless variations but a sticky would be helpful for us newbies that shows where the serial numbers should be and other features. Or perhaps a "What to look for when purchasing a P08" Again, thank you for the information.

07-26-2020, 08:02 PM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	We actually have that info for new collectors, thoughtfully placed in a FAQ thread in the 'New Collectors' sub-forum... http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121 Maybe next time you should read first, before jumping to conclusions? Collecting Lugers is not simple, not easy and certainly not cheap. You will have to do your homework, buy and read the right books and develop a basic knowledge. The Luger collecting area is so complex that you cannot expect to be educated by a few comments in a newbie forum. The PDF document in the link above should get you started, but be prepared to study hard and long. Good photos, though.

07-27-2020, 10:37 AM	#10
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 725 Thanks: 2,089 Thanked 606 Times in 327 Posts	Just FYI: This Forum has a lot of easy to access Technical and General information (see the side bar to the left) to help you identify and catalog the features of your Luger. Along with weapons and parts, members often sell reference books, many of which are out of print and collectible in themselves. And, in each of the forum directories, you will find extensive sticky's with the FAQ for each category of Luger. Explore a little. Collectors are anxious to share their own knowledge, particularly if visitors will post a set of photographs, which are so easy to take with today's advanced cell phone cameras. Last thing I should mention - this web site is free, but a donation would be very welcome. It's not free to host and moderators spend a good deal of time keeping the forum working and free of spam, bots and constant cyber attacks. You can help support the web site - there's a sticky for that, too!

07-27-2020, 05:38 PM	#12
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,696 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,679 Times in 552 Posts	Standard military 1918 DWM that has been refinished. The side plate is a replacement as it's unnumbered. The grips have been modified. The stamp on the trigger guard is unusual and appears to be, or may be, a Prussian Eagle. It is not the normal crown/letter stamp found on all Erfurt trigger guards so the frame is likely DWM.