1910 dwm military

wayne8661 · 03-08-2009, 09:49 AM

I got this istol yesterday from the so of a ww2 vet. I am kind of curious about a few things. how often do you see a complete ww1 rig taken off of a ww2 soldier the holster is even ww1 dated 1916 and it also has the acceptance stamps under the flaps. Can anyone tell me the value of this pistol and tell me what unit the strap markings reprsent. This is an extremely nice pistol the bluing is 95% i would say. All numbers match even the firing pin is numbered.

Ron Smith · 03-08-2009, 10:28 AM

Wayne,

Your 1910 DWM is marked to the 8th Dragoon Regiment 1st Squadron weapon #4 Cavalry marked Lugers are very popular among unit mark collectors. And are somewhat scarce.

It was very common for Imperial Lugers to be reissued in WWII. Just as many 1911's were reissued to U.S. troops.

That's a nice rig. Without seeing it first hand I would estimate the value at $2000 - $2500.

Ron

wayne8661 · 03-08-2009, 10:32 AM

I appreciate the info I thought thats what it was but i needed an expert opinion. Any estimate on value I can provide more photos if needed

Ron Smith · 03-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Wayne,

We must have over lapped. I edited and added a rough estimate. " Without seeing it first hand I would estimate the value at $2000 - $2500". However, with the economy the way it is, it could be difficult to get that much.

Go ahead and add more photos. We're always ready to look at nice Lugers.

Ron

wayne8661 · 03-08-2009, 10:48 AM

Here are a few more pics I tried to show the stamp on the top of the barrel it is the same eagle that is stamped on the right side of the reciever

snipershot1944 · 03-08-2009, 02:22 PM

Wayne, nice pistol. does the mag number match the pistol?

wayne8661 · 03-08-2009, 02:51 PM

No the mag is the only thing that does not match but it is the correct period type of magazine

Lugerdoc · 03-09-2009, 09:46 AM

Wayne, The markings inside your holster are from the 11th Army clothing depot. TH

wayne8661 · 03-09-2009, 05:35 PM

Thank you for the info. I am becoming more impressed this weapon everyday

Ron Smith · 03-10-2009, 10:42 AM

Wayne,

Here's some history on your 1910.

The 8th Dragoon Regiment was part of the 11th Infantry Div.

The battle History of the 11th Infantry Div. WWI

1914~
Rheims
Argonne

1915~
Champagne
Souchez

1916~
Frise
Somme

1917~
Artois
Flanders
Woevre

1918~
Champagne
Lassigny
Montdidier
St. Quentin

It suffered very heavy losses due to being in the thick of battle continuously. It was haunted with dessertions and the troops mutinied.

In 1918, due to a shortage of man power and horses. The 8th Dragoons were transfered to the Guard Cavalry Div. A Cavalry Div.in name only, as they were deployed and fought as dismounted Infantry.

Ron

wayne8661 · 03-10-2009, 04:41 PM

Thanx for the info Ron

03-Oden · 03-14-2009, 03:31 PM

Wayne, could you show us a picture of the magazine bottom?
DonO

wayne8661 · 03-14-2009, 06:35 PM

The magazine isnt the correct type for this pistol. But it is a wood bottom nickel tube magazine. There is green patina all over it. Here are a few pics

MFC · 03-14-2009, 10:54 PM

Wayne,
Your mag was made by Erfurt.

drbuster · 03-15-2009, 01:30 PM

Wayne, with all due respect, the "correct" magazine bottom for a 1910 would have LARGE numbers running perpendicular to the holding knobs, much like Navy luger mags. The numbers changed to the smaller parallel numbers later, perhaps in 1912. Your 1910 rig is a treasure to be sure. I would hold on to it as its value will increase faster than the economy will recover.

wayne8661 · 03-15-2009, 03:52 PM

Dr I knew the magazine was incorrect and from reading on here i did learn that the proper mag for my pistol had the numbers running longways on the bottom. I believe I am going to hang on to this pistol I am learning that this pistol in this condition isnt too common.

drbuster · 03-15-2009, 05:26 PM

Wayne, you are indeed correct. I would hang on to it as well if it was mine.

wayne8661 · 03-15-2009, 05:29 PM

I have to tell you I have been mainly a german helmet and headgear guy but I think I am getting the luger bug. I have 4 now and one of them is a 1902 ae fat barrel I think I have a good base to have a respectable luger collection

wayne8661 · 03-22-2009, 11:07 PM

If anyone has need for an Ehrfurt mag I will trade this one for a mag for a 1910 (even if the numbers are off)

03-08-2009, 09:49 AM	#1
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	1910 dwm military I got this istol yesterday from the so of a ww2 vet. I am kind of curious about a few things. how often do you see a complete ww1 rig taken off of a ww2 soldier the holster is even ww1 dated 1916 and it also has the acceptance stamps under the flaps. Can anyone tell me the value of this pistol and tell me what unit the strap markings reprsent. This is an extremely nice pistol the bluing is 95% i would say. All numbers match even the firing pin is numbered. Attached Thumbnails

03-08-2009, 10:28 AM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Wayne, Your 1910 DWM is marked to the 8th Dragoon Regiment 1st Squadron weapon #4 Cavalry marked Lugers are very popular among unit mark collectors. And are somewhat scarce. It was very common for Imperial Lugers to be reissued in WWII. Just as many 1911's were reissued to U.S. troops. That's a nice rig. Without seeing it first hand I would estimate the value at $2000 - $2500. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-08-2009, 10:48 AM	#5
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Here are a few more pics I tried to show the stamp on the top of the barrel it is the same eagle that is stamped on the right side of the reciever Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2009, 09:46 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Wayne, The markings inside your holster are from the 11th Army clothing depot. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-10-2009, 10:42 AM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Wayne, Here's some history on your 1910. The 8th Dragoon Regiment was part of the 11th Infantry Div. The battle History of the 11th Infantry Div. WWI 1914~ Rheims Argonne 1915~ Champagne Souchez 1916~ Frise Somme 1917~ Artois Flanders Woevre 1918~ Champagne Lassigny Montdidier St. Quentin It suffered very heavy losses due to being in the thick of battle continuously. It was haunted with dessertions and the troops mutinied. In 1918, due to a shortage of man power and horses. The 8th Dragoons were transfered to the Guard Cavalry Div. A Cavalry Div.in name only, as they were deployed and fought as dismounted Infantry. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-08-2009, 10:32 AM	#3
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	I appreciate the info I thought thats what it was but i needed an expert opinion. Any estimate on value I can provide more photos if needed

03-08-2009, 10:43 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Wayne, We must have over lapped. I edited and added a rough estimate. " Without seeing it first hand I would estimate the value at $2000 - $2500". However, with the economy the way it is, it could be difficult to get that much. Go ahead and add more photos. We're always ready to look at nice Lugers. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-08-2009, 02:22 PM	#6
snipershot1944 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, part of the occupied Confederacy Posts: 299 Thanks: 15 Thanked 33 Times in 24 Posts	Wayne, nice pistol. does the mag number match the pistol?

03-08-2009, 02:51 PM	#7
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	No the mag is the only thing that does not match but it is the correct period type of magazine

03-09-2009, 05:35 PM	#9
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Thank you for the info. I am becoming more impressed this weapon everyday

03-10-2009, 04:41 PM	#11
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Thanx for the info Ron

03-14-2009, 03:31 PM	#12
03-Oden User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wayne, could you show us a picture of the magazine bottom? DonO

03-14-2009, 06:35 PM	#13
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	The magazine isnt the correct type for this pistol. But it is a wood bottom nickel tube magazine. There is green patina all over it. Here are a few pics Attached Thumbnails

03-14-2009, 10:54 PM	#14
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Wayne, Your mag was made by Erfurt. __________________ Mike C.

03-15-2009, 01:30 PM	#15
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Wayne, with all due respect, the "correct" magazine bottom for a 1910 would have LARGE numbers running perpendicular to the holding knobs, much like Navy luger mags. The numbers changed to the smaller parallel numbers later, perhaps in 1912. Your 1910 rig is a treasure to be sure. I would hold on to it as its value will increase faster than the economy will recover.

03-15-2009, 03:52 PM	#16
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Dr I knew the magazine was incorrect and from reading on here i did learn that the proper mag for my pistol had the numbers running longways on the bottom. I believe I am going to hang on to this pistol I am learning that this pistol in this condition isnt too common.

03-15-2009, 05:26 PM	#17
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Wayne, you are indeed correct. I would hang on to it as well if it was mine.

03-15-2009, 05:29 PM	#18
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	I have to tell you I have been mainly a german helmet and headgear guy but I think I am getting the luger bug. I have 4 now and one of them is a 1902 ae fat barrel I think I have a good base to have a respectable luger collection

03-22-2009, 11:07 PM	#19
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	If anyone has need for an Ehrfurt mag I will trade this one for a mag for a 1910 (even if the numbers are off)