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bhp31 · 04-14-2004, 04:08 AM

im looking into buying a luger as a potential investment. i know nothing about lugers, and i dont want to get ripped off. how do i go about finding a quality luger for sale?

how is this website: www.worldoflugers.com
it's some guy named ralph e. shattuck; he's supposedly a luger guru. is this guy honest? anyone know of any good sites to buy a quality luger from?

any help is appreciated.

Vlim · 04-14-2004, 07:45 AM

BHP,

He's honest, he's a legend. You can't go wrong there.

Edward Tinker · 04-14-2004, 10:20 AM

"spab" is that a real name?

Read a lot first, buying as an investment on anything is risky, but lugers have many pluses and minuses.

Read this forum, top to bottom, buy books, decide on the era you want to buy, then talk to some people and decide what to buy.

Ed

John Sabato · 04-14-2004, 10:33 AM

bhp31,

Welcome to the Lugerforum.

Simpsonltd.com is a good source of collector quality Lugers.

Also check with Tom Heller (lugerdoc) on this forum.

Make your desires known in the "Wanted" forum.

Take Ed's advice and do a LOT of reading before you buy. Decide just what you want and then buy the best the budget can afford... and don't shoot it... it will only appreciate in value.

bhp31 · 04-14-2004, 10:22 PM

thanks for the help, fellas.

Pete Ebbink · 04-15-2004, 12:04 PM

Hello Spab,

Your user-profile does not indicate your country of location, but I will assume the USA.

Here are some dealers that have web-site sales in addition to the WOL site you have already :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/

http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/

http://www.relicsofthereichs.com/

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/index.html

http://www.joesalter.com/

http://lmd-militaria.com/

http://www.pugsguns.com/

You can find many more if you do a Google search for "luger" or "luger pistol", etc.

The advice given by others, above, is very good. Spend some time and money on luger books to become more knowledgable about these pistols. Maybe buy a $ 400-600 shooter luger, first, to have fun with the gun and learn about its mechanics. Find a luger collector near your home that can help mentor you into knowing what to look for in original versus refinished works. Many refinished pieces are being peddled as "original"...so beware.

It may not be what a seller tells you about a gun. It may be what is "not said" about the piece that you need to know and ask about. A local gun shop owner near me jokes about this and calls it "the policy of ommission"...

If considering web-site sales, get the description of the luger in writing via emails and insist on a 3-5 day inspection/return policy. This written documentation may help you recover your shipping costs (both ways) if a gun is not "as advertised". Recently had an outfit tell me via email that "the concept of originality is too complex to discuss via email and a telephone call might be better". This left me a little cold so I passed on the gun as I sensed some evasiveness. Telephone calls are always good, but follow-up with a written email confirming those discussion before sending money. Ask the seller to read your confirming email and ask them to send a reply-email that he/she agrees with the conclusions in your "documentation" email.

Good luger hunting !

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

04-14-2004, 04:08 AM	#1
bhp31 New User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	help im looking into buying a luger as a potential investment. i know nothing about lugers, and i dont want to get ripped off. how do i go about finding a quality luger for sale? how is this website: www.worldoflugers.com it's some guy named ralph e. shattuck; he's supposedly a luger guru. is this guy honest? anyone know of any good sites to buy a quality luger from? any help is appreciated.

04-14-2004, 10:20 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,928 Thanks: 2,028 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	"spab" is that a real name? Read a lot first, buying as an investment on anything is risky, but lugers have many pluses and minuses. Read this forum, top to bottom, buy books, decide on the era you want to buy, then talk to some people and decide what to buy. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-14-2004, 10:33 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	bhp31, Welcome to the Lugerforum. Simpsonltd.com is a good source of collector quality Lugers. Also check with Tom Heller (lugerdoc) on this forum. Make your desires known in the "Wanted" forum. Take Ed's advice and do a LOT of reading before you buy. Decide just what you want and then buy the best the budget can afford... and don't shoot it... it will only appreciate in value. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-14-2004, 07:45 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	BHP, He's honest, he's a legend. You can't go wrong there.

04-14-2004, 10:22 PM	#5
bhp31 New User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for the help, fellas.

04-15-2004, 12:04 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Spab, Your user-profile does not indicate your country of location, but I will assume the USA. Here are some dealers that have web-site sales in addition to the WOL site you have already : http://www.simpsonltd.com/ http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/ http://www.relicsofthereichs.com/ http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/index.html http://www.joesalter.com/ http://lmd-militaria.com/ http://www.pugsguns.com/ You can find many more if you do a Google search for "luger" or "luger pistol", etc. The advice given by others, above, is very good. Spend some time and money on luger books to become more knowledgable about these pistols. Maybe buy a $ 400-600 shooter luger, first, to have fun with the gun and learn about its mechanics. Find a luger collector near your home that can help mentor you into knowing what to look for in original versus refinished works. Many refinished pieces are being peddled as "original"...so beware. It may not be what a seller tells you about a gun. It may be what is "not said" about the piece that you need to know and ask about. A local gun shop owner near me jokes about this and calls it "the policy of ommission"... If considering web-site sales, get the description of the luger in writing via emails and insist on a 3-5 day inspection/return policy. This written documentation may help you recover your shipping costs (both ways) if a gun is not "as advertised". Recently had an outfit tell me via email that "the concept of originality is too complex to discuss via email and a telephone call might be better". This left me a little cold so I passed on the gun as I sensed some evasiveness. Telephone calls are always good, but follow-up with a written email confirming those discussion before sending money. Ask the seller to read your confirming email and ask them to send a reply-email that he/she agrees with the conclusions in your "documentation" email. Good luger hunting ! Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />