Browning Holster Help Please

josef · 01-24-2005, 05:51 PM

I bought this holster some time ago, looking for something to put my Radom into. But I believe this is a Hi Power holster, correct? It is lightly marked and shows use, but all stitching and loops are strong and intact. Can anyone help me with a value and decipher the German on the inner flap? Are these relatively common? It is the first I have seen. Thanks very much.

josef · 01-24-2005, 05:52 PM

Sorry for the large pics, will try and reduce the pics of the stamping,

the gunman · 01-24-2005, 06:55 PM

It is a browning hi-power holster not rare but getting harder to find.

lew1 · 01-26-2005, 08:33 PM

One of the markings = WaA195

The other one = dla ?? Hard to tell from the pictures

Should be a date, but cannot tell from the pictures

RockinWR · 01-26-2005, 11:29 PM

Hi Paul,
* Sorry it has taken so long for someone to jump on this as I saw your post on Jan's Forum too.
* The maker's code/date are difficult to read from your pictures as they probably are in real time. Jan Balcar reports using a "blacklight" or ultraviolet light to aid in reading these stamped impressions. I have also resorted to sprinkling talcum powder or flour on these impressions, blew off the excess, and tried to read the highlighted results. The powder can be removed easily with a lightly damp cloth.
* Anyway: Assuming your 640(b) holster was made by "dla", I believe I see the remanents of a single digit "4" centered and directly below the "l". Your pictures suggest this mark is on the small closure flap. Coupled with the WaA195 acceptance, the maker would then be identified as Karl Barth, MilitÃ?Â¤reffekten-Fabrik. Barth examples can be found dated 41, 43, & 44
* If by chance this interpretation is not correct, an alternate could be "dta". The maker would be A.Waldhausen, Inh. M.Bruchmann, Sattler u. Kofferfabrik, Koln. They also carried the Waffen acceptance of WaA195; but, are only seen dated 41 with the marks stamped on the rear of the brown colored, smooth leather holster.
* Finally, be advised, some "dla 44" holsters were made for the Star Model B. These are similar to the dla holsters made for the Hi-Power except the magazine pouch is thinner leather. Don't believe this is the ccase with your; but, thought you'd like to know.
* Trust this will aid in you positively identifying your nice PT.
Respectfully,
Bob

josef · 01-27-2005, 11:11 AM

Thank you Sirs, this is alot of help. I am grateful for your expertise, take care!

01-24-2005, 05:51 PM	#1
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Browning Holster Help Please I bought this holster some time ago, looking for something to put my Radom into. But I believe this is a Hi Power holster, correct? It is lightly marked and shows use, but all stitching and loops are strong and intact. Can anyone help me with a value and decipher the German on the inner flap? Are these relatively common? It is the first I have seen. Thanks very much.

01-26-2005, 08:33 PM	#4
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	One of the markings = WaA195 The other one = dla ?? Hard to tell from the pictures Should be a date, but cannot tell from the pictures __________________ charlie

01-24-2005, 05:52 PM	#2
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Sorry for the large pics, will try and reduce the pics of the stamping,

01-24-2005, 06:55 PM	#3
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	It is a browning hi-power holster not rare but getting harder to find.

01-26-2005, 11:29 PM	#5
RockinWR User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: D/FW, Tx Posts: 279 Thanks: 109 Thanked 31 Times in 16 Posts	Hi Paul, * Sorry it has taken so long for someone to jump on this as I saw your post on Jan's Forum too. * The maker's code/date are difficult to read from your pictures as they probably are in real time. Jan Balcar reports using a "blacklight" or ultraviolet light to aid in reading these stamped impressions. I have also resorted to sprinkling talcum powder or flour on these impressions, blew off the excess, and tried to read the highlighted results. The powder can be removed easily with a lightly damp cloth. * Anyway: Assuming your 640(b) holster was made by "dla", I believe I see the remanents of a single digit "4" centered and directly below the "l". Your pictures suggest this mark is on the small closure flap. Coupled with the WaA195 acceptance, the maker would then be identified as Karl Barth, MilitÃ?Â¤reffekten-Fabrik. Barth examples can be found dated 41, 43, & 44 * If by chance this interpretation is not correct, an alternate could be "dta". The maker would be A.Waldhausen, Inh. M.Bruchmann, Sattler u. Kofferfabrik, Koln. They also carried the Waffen acceptance of WaA195; but, are only seen dated 41 with the marks stamped on the rear of the brown colored, smooth leather holster. * Finally, be advised, some "dla 44" holsters were made for the Star Model B. These are similar to the dla holsters made for the Hi-Power except the magazine pouch is thinner leather. Don't believe this is the ccase with your; but, thought you'd like to know. * Trust this will aid in you positively identifying your nice PT. Respectfully, Bob

01-27-2005, 11:11 AM	#6
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you Sirs, this is alot of help. I am grateful for your expertise, take care!