1920 Commercial .30 Luger Question

mr.mike · 08-01-2015, 05:31 PM

Hello all,
I'm new to this forum, and thought I get started by asking a question about my newly acquired .30 commercial Luger. The Luger came complete with a nice hardshell holster, and all matching numbered parts, with the exception of the mag. The mag appears to be an aftermarket type. The wooden grips are very nice and have matching numbers as well. Now for my question. Is the safety lever supposed to have a serial number visible on the outside? Also, I was wondering if the safety lever on the commercial Luger was supposed to be straw colored? This one appears to be a mottled blue. Other than that everything seems quite nice. Thank you in advance for your responses. Looking forward to meeting a good many of you on this forum in time to come.
mr.mike

Just replaced the original poor photos, with a photo that depicts my reason for this post. Never gave the missing white paint much thought, until a member mentioned it. Any ideas?
Thank you,
Mike

mrerick · 08-01-2015, 10:06 PM

Unfortunately, it's rather hard to make out detail in your photos.

If I remember correctly, the safety lever was not numbered on these commercial pistols.

It was normally strawed, but sometimes this can darken naturally over the years.

hayhugh · 08-01-2015, 10:29 PM

It looks to me as if all the normally strawed parts are about the same color which would be just the natural ageing process .=(Patina)

mr.mike · 08-01-2015, 10:36 PM

Thank you for your responses. Sorry about the poor quality photos, seems my camera decided to act up at the wrong time. I am however, happy to hear that my newest acquisition appears to be as it should. Glad to have joined this forum, and looking forward to many interesting discussions.
Mike

Sergio Natali · 08-02-2015, 04:16 AM

Michael

Your pictures are rather dark and I think it's quite difficult to express a correct opinion, for what I can see it looks like a nice gun with some onest wear.
Regards

Sergio

DavidJayUden · 08-02-2015, 09:31 AM

The last photo shows no white paint in the GESHERT, unusually light drag marks from the safety lever, and bluing on the lever itself. I'm wondering if someone hasn't put some cold bluing on that area? Give it the sniff test.
dju

mr.mike · 08-02-2015, 10:42 AM

I appreciate your comments, never thought about the cold bluing theory. I'll give it a sniff.
Thanks,
Mike

rhuff · 08-02-2015, 03:48 PM

A commercial 30 Luger does not have the mag numbered to the Luger....they are a wooden base without numbers. To my knowledge(limited at best), the grips on a commercial should not be numbered to the luger. I own a couple of commercials that are original and neither has numbered grips.

mr.mike · 08-02-2015, 09:17 PM

Thank you for your comments. The grips on this commercial Luger contain the last 2 digits of the serial number. Still not sure about the lack of white lettering in the word Gesichert.
Mike

08-01-2015, 05:31 PM	#1
mr.mike User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	1920 Commercial .30 Luger Question Hello all, I'm new to this forum, and thought I get started by asking a question about my newly acquired .30 commercial Luger. The Luger came complete with a nice hardshell holster, and all matching numbered parts, with the exception of the mag. The mag appears to be an aftermarket type. The wooden grips are very nice and have matching numbers as well. Now for my question. Is the safety lever supposed to have a serial number visible on the outside? Also, I was wondering if the safety lever on the commercial Luger was supposed to be straw colored? This one appears to be a mottled blue. Other than that everything seems quite nice. Thank you in advance for your responses. Looking forward to meeting a good many of you on this forum in time to come. mr.mike Just replaced the original poor photos, with a photo that depicts my reason for this post. Never gave the missing white paint much thought, until a member mentioned it. Any ideas? Thank you, Mike Attached Thumbnails Last edited by mr.mike; 08-02-2015 at 02:41 PM.

08-01-2015, 10:06 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Unfortunately, it's rather hard to make out detail in your photos. If I remember correctly, the safety lever was not numbered on these commercial pistols. It was normally strawed, but sometimes this can darken naturally over the years. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-02-2015, 04:16 AM	#5
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Michael Your pictures are rather dark and I think it's quite difficult to express a correct opinion, for what I can see it looks like a nice gun with some onest wear. Regards Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

08-02-2015, 09:17 PM	#9
mr.mike User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you for your comments. The grips on this commercial Luger contain the last 2 digits of the serial number. Still not sure about the lack of white lettering in the word Gesichert. Mike Last edited by mr.mike; 08-02-2015 at 11:01 PM.

08-01-2015, 10:29 PM	#3
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	It looks to me as if all the normally strawed parts are about the same color which would be just the natural ageing process .=(Patina)

08-01-2015, 10:36 PM	#4
mr.mike User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you for your responses. Sorry about the poor quality photos, seems my camera decided to act up at the wrong time. I am however, happy to hear that my newest acquisition appears to be as it should. Glad to have joined this forum, and looking forward to many interesting discussions. Mike

08-02-2015, 09:31 AM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The last photo shows no white paint in the GESHERT, unusually light drag marks from the safety lever, and bluing on the lever itself. I'm wondering if someone hasn't put some cold bluing on that area? Give it the sniff test. dju

08-02-2015, 10:42 AM	#7
mr.mike User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	I appreciate your comments, never thought about the cold bluing theory. I'll give it a sniff. Thanks, Mike

08-02-2015, 03:48 PM	#8
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	A commercial 30 Luger does not have the mag numbered to the Luger....they are a wooden base without numbers. To my knowledge(limited at best), the grips on a commercial should not be numbered to the luger. I own a couple of commercials that are original and neither has numbered grips.